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27/1/2006 at 6:45pm
 Location: essex
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hi im going away 17 feb but got blue gas bottle is this going to be okay any advice appreiciated

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27/1/2006 at 6:52pm
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i would get a red one if its going to as cold as it is now, the blue one wont work well at low temperatures. hope that helps.

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27/1/2006 at 7:11pm
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 yeah, what floppy said. the blue, butane, freezes at about +2 to +3 dc. the red one , propane, tends to cope with colder temps much better. freezes at about -5 to -8 dc.

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27/1/2006 at 8:54pm
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 We use red, and have not had a problem so far. Saying that, it has warmed up each time before we cook breakfast. Use EHU for everything else if we have it.

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28/1/2006 at 1:42pm
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hi see, www.calor.co.uk FAQ for more information ie.

What is the operating temperature range for each of the gases?

BS 5482 part 1 states: "For Butane cylinders, satisfactory service might not be obtained at a temperature of less than 10°C; the most suitable temperature range is from 13 to 30°C. For temperatures less than 13°C, the use of propane should be considered."[:o)]



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28/1/2006 at 5:18pm
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Steve. I used butane at New Year. It wasnt as good as when the weather is warmer but it still worked. Are you going to Sussex?

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28/1/2006 at 7:39pm
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 We also used ours this new year gone. Did not notice any difference, although I did not look for any. I suppose most of the pipework is in the van, and that might help.

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28/1/2006 at 8:58pm
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Butane stops gassing completely at -2c, (freezing), however as changing from liquid to gas actually cools the bottle further it's little or no use at +2 or 3c as far as caravanning is concerned. Calors higher figures would be based on sustained high usage, (worse case scenario), which would reduce bottle temperature to 'freezing' point even when outside temperatures are quite mild, however in my experience relatively small caravan heaters don't draw of the gas to this high degree. It also has to be said that bottle diameter and hence the surface area of the liquid to gas interface has a direct influence on the ability to change state, ie, a bottle lent to one side will increase the surface area and allow more liquid to turn to gas at any given temperature above -2c. You must alway ensure the neck is not in liquid so it only works with bottles perhaps half full or less but useful to know if you get caught out.

There are no real problems with Propane as it gasses right down to -47c



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28/1/2006 at 10:09pm
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Are you aware you need different pressure reducing valves for butane blue and propane red gas bottles?



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