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02/4/2009 at 9:36pm
Location: None Entered Outfit: Karsten 220 De Waard Visdief+Kuifuil
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Hi Mrs Spaghetti
I have enjoyed reading this thread as I too have been wondering for a while about getting a stove. I have an ex army 5 man bell tent (well it's actually hexagonal...I think) and it has a stove pipe hole just above the side wall. I know nothing at all about stoves and so do not really know where to start! I now know (thanks to this thread) that I need a straight flue though.
I had also seen some of the American ones and they seem a good buy, but I find it all so confusing I give up, then look again...then give up! My main concern is safety as I have a very precious 7 year old and I think it is this that has stopped me from taking the plunge. Although my outer canvas appears to have a decent heat/fire proof fabric ring, the inner tent does not look quite as substantial and I would obviously want to be using the inner if it was cold enough to warrant the use of a stove. Do you use /buy something else to go around the pipe where it exits the tent?
Can any of you that have posted on this thread help allay my fears?!
Oh and thanks for the great links.
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02/4/2009 at 11:53pm
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Tin Pockets,
Thanks for your reply, very helpful, I would certainly feel more relaxed with those guards etc. I love the look of that Eldfell stove, beautiful design but not such a beautiful price!
There are so many things to consider, size, weight, does it fold flat etc. Ideally I would like one that does fold flat as I would want to take in my luggage. I like the look of the Titaniumgoat ones on one of the previous post links but again with so little practical knowledge I'm reluctant to jump straight in and buy! Maybe if I dither long enough Liverbird08 and Mrs Spaghetti will have bought,used and written some 'glowing' reviews on these stoves!
By the way I know you all say these tents are easy to put up but I always struggle. Mine is an odd shape and it takes forever to peg and re peg to get it right. I'm a higgledy piggeldy type of person in everything I do, apart from pitching tents...then (and only then) I am a bit of a perfectionist and can't sit down until it looks 'right'...my 'bell tent' really tests my patience! They are lovely though.
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03/4/2009 at 10:32pm
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Hi,
Thanks again for the links and info. There is a lot to consider and I will certainly be following all the safety advice given here which has put my mind at rest a bit! ( I am always overly cautious about things like this).
I have decided I need to actually see some of these working to get an idea of how practical/useful it would be to have one, even if I then order one from America. That Kifaru stove looks just the job Tin Pockets.
Look forward to hearing how you get on with your stove Liverbird and Mrs S.
I'm off now as away camping for a week (or 2) tomorrow......thanks again.
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06/6/2009 at 2:29am
Location: Northwest Outfit: Soulpad 5000 Lite and Suncamp Day Tent
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Hello to all musing on the in's and out's of stoves in Bell Tents.
I was also somewhat perplexed and baffled at first by the stove issue, and I did also wonder whether it was just a gimmick too far, (Drafty tent v. tiny stove), but in an attempt to make the camping experience as comfortable as possible for my Mother, who had gamely agreed to come camping with me, I ended up getting the Soulsaver package from Soul Pad, which included their Blaze Stove, Flue and Flue flashing kit.
Although it was a bit alarming, to say the least, to start cutting holes in the side of my brand new tent in order to fit the flashing kit, I have to say that on a recent week long camping holiday to Scotland, although we had beautiful sunny days, the stove really came into it's own in the evening and surprisingly really did belt out some heat! (Which obviously would have to be guarded against if there were children about.)
With regards to Angled or straight flues - due to me wanting to have the flexibility of being able to roll the sides of the tent up, I knew that I would have to get a stove with a flue that exited the tent in a straight line, rather than angled through the 'wall' of the tent, which meant that of UK suppliers, (I didn't want the worry of ordering something from the USA in case it turned out to be faulty/useless), only Windy Smith and Soul Pad had suitable stoves in stock when I was looking to buy, and once all the bits an pieces were added together the kit from Soul Pad actually turned out to be £100 cheaper.
With regards to putting the whole stove, flue and flashing together, there is some initial, one-off preparation of the flashing that's required before you can get going with using the kit, and although the Soul Pad instructions are very good, the process of drilling the holes in the flashing is a bit laborious, (especially if you're not blessed with a proper workshop and are instead having to drill the holes on the kitchen worktop, with cardboard underneath to save drilling straight through the counter!).
Additionally, once this is done, it is helpful to have two people do the nuts and bolts bit of the flashing installation when you're fixing it to the tent as it can be fiddly work. But despite all that, as long as you're staying put for a few nights, the hassle involved is more than compensated for the brilliance of have a fire in your tent and the warmth!
In terms of safety, the only warning tips I would give, (in addition to those mentioned earlier in the thread) are as below:
1.In order not to risk melting the silicon flashing, it's important to follow the measurement guidelines given in the SoulPad instructions.
2.When the fire is alight, if it is allowed to burn too forcefully, (say to heat up the tent quickly or to get the fire going), the flue pipe can heat up very, very quickly, to the extent that it can start to 'glow' – which as I discovered, (fortunately before any damage was done) is not only terrifying, it is also not a good thing for the silicon flashing!
3.Make sure you provide sufficient heat protection underneath, and in front of the stove in the form of slates or slabs of stone - it's not only the top and sides of the stove that get very hot, as I discovered on my trial run in my Father's garden, the underside does as well and despite using two slates to stand the stove on, although my groundsheet was unaffected by the heat - grass is unfortunately extremely sensitive to high heat and will turn brown very quickly!
4.Purchase the additional flue restraining collar that's designed to be guy roped down to provide extra stability for the flue in windy conditions – I used the stove and flue once minus the additional guys, (in not particularly windy weather), and then again with the extra collar/guys and unsurprisingly everything from the tent to the stove and flue ended up benefiting from the additional restraints.(Pictures below show the additional guys etc)
Oh and one more great thing about the stove - the smoke from it drives away the midges and mozzies!
Happy wood burning!
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