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Subject Topic: Outwell Montana 6 Big problems
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13/10/2011 at 8:16pm
 Location: Surrey
 Outfit: Outwell Montana and Birdland 3
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But the  "Tent" isn't  a spare part it is a whole thing!!!! I don't get this at all!!!!!

If I had managed to ruin my tent because I had made a bad judgement, over whatever. Then that is down to me, and certainly not any fault of anyones but mine!

 



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13/10/2011 at 8:32pm
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13/10/2011 at 8:40pm
 Location: Stalybridge
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Quote: Originally posted by markkeogh on 13/10/2011
Quote: Originally posted by sxis on 13/10/2011
Im on me second Monty ive had no problems with either of them its a superb tent!, i just cant believe that someone is looking for a monty " flysheet" THEY DONT EXIST! its like looking for a haggis with one leg longer than the other so it can run round hillsides without rolling over!
I agree it is a superb tent. But again, as you seem to keep chipping in with useless information, you would expect to be able to sort out a problem with a tent a year on and not be left with a product you have to completely replace. Nugget


Ouch!
Sometimes Go outdoors have spares, we got a spare flysheet when our 2010 Oakland broke a zip and was in warranty (1yr) they also keep returned ones and sell them as damaged.
Could it not be repaired/patched you usually get a patch the same color as the flysheet.
How big is the damage, is it a hole? if not then maybe a good clean and fabsil may suffice


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13/10/2011 at 9:06pm
 Location: N.Yorks
 Outfit: Outwell Montana Lake
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Quote: Originally posted by markkeogh on 13/10/2011

So you think you spend £500+ on a tent and if you damage it you have to get a new one. Ludicrous!

House/contents insurers all have camping as an exception it would seem.

Not the point though, aftersales for spares is vital to a camping product you would have thought?


If i spend £500 on anything that is in one piece and i damage it then i would expect to have to buy a new one.I agree after sales spares is vital but how can a whole flysheet complete with SIG and toggles etc etc be considered a spare part when it in fact it is almost the whole product.Even if it was available as a spare as pointed out the cost would be very high.

My house/garage/shed contents are all covered including all my camping equipment even when we are away using it.I made sure it was,not the cheapest policy out there but the investment in camping stuff when you add it all up is quite alot and with 1 gust of wind... Like i said it's worth a phone call to check.

As for outwell sucking because they don't keep whole tents as a spare part i don't think they will be to worried by this as i'm sure their rivals won't be adding whole sig'ed tent fabric only options to their spare parts lists either.



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13/10/2011 at 9:31pm
 Location: Stalybridge
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I should imagine the fly sheet is the main cost of the tent so can understand not being classed as a spare part.
Outwell give you a spare pole patch kit, you can buy poles, pegs etc so I think they have it covered.

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13/10/2011 at 9:33pm
 Location: None Entered
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Quote: Originally posted by denny98 on 13/10/2011

But the  "Tent" isn't  a spare part it is a whole thing!!!! I don't get this at all!!!!!



Unless of course you want the poles and pegs replaced that come in separate bags. Outwell as other manufacturers will charge you plenty just for them.

Smash up your motor and you can replace the body shell, doors, glass, motor, wheels, in fact all components if you wish to spend the dough. Never heard where they expect you to buy a whole fresh vehicle.

Quote: Originally posted by denny98 on 13/10/2011

If I had managed to ruin my tent because I had made a bad judgement, over whatever. Then that is down to me, and certainly not any fault of anyones but mine!

 



Where on earth did he say that the damage caused was not his fault?????   So why this implication?


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13/10/2011 at 10:13pm
 Location: Surrey
 Outfit: Outwell Montana and Birdland 3
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But tents aren't cars!! and tend to come in whole parts all sewn together.

I guess one could always cut a bit out and sew a new bit in

 



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13/10/2011 at 10:40pm
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90% of a tent as a spare, and I'M a nugget! ithink the words "glasshouses" and "stones" spring to mind

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13/10/2011 at 11:07pm
 Location: Surrey
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14/10/2011 at 10:07am
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Quote: Originally posted by denny98 on 13/10/2011

But tents aren't cars!! and tend to come in whole parts all sewn together.



Yeh I suppose, but on cars you still replace welded parts like door skins. I do get the fact that the tent fabric is the 'main' part of the tent but if you want to replace all the other parts how much would Outwell charge? Probably more than 25% of the whole cost. To most of us a not insignificant amount that should be saved.
Quote: Originally posted by denny98 on 13/10/2011

I guess one could always cut a bit out and sew a new bit in

 



That is of course if Outwell would be prepared to sell sections. In these times of planned obsolescence and short life cycles it would not fit the corporate plan.
Nice thought though

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14/10/2011 at 11:56am
 Location: Newton le Willows LANCASHIRE
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Could be of interest.

 

................. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Outwell-Montana-Lake-Polycotton-Tent-Faulty-J169-/170712234187?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_HikingCamping_Tents_JN&hash=item27bf3df8cb



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15/10/2011 at 12:10am
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Well done Safeway,  that and a tube of seam sealer. 

Job sorted 

set of spare poles as well.  



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16/10/2011 at 6:41am
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To finish this as some still aren't listening or getting it!

First: I had an issue, not anyone elses fault, and accident, but I just wanted to buy the outer cover which maybe cost half the price of a new tent, that way I don't have to spend the price of a full tent.

Second: The tent was one year and two weeks old so I would have thought I would have been easily able to buy the outer only without guy ropes or anything else for me to re-fit.

Third: Don't do insurance as it rarely pays out so I estimated, as we'd had an Aztec for 7 years which we sold as mint condition before the Montana purchase and had been able to replace a torn flysheet after 7 years albeit with a different colour, and as part of their lieftime warranty.

So, to summarise, it's just over a year old and I just expected to be able to buy an outer. If it was a warranty issue, say a broken zip and I found it two weeks earlier, what would have happened? It took me since August to get this far a week ago as none of the original suppliers or Outwell would even bother to reply as to whether I could buy an outer (flysheet as I? was told by them!). Perhaps it's people like 'Sxis' who think the outer sheet only (as I can re-fit my own guy ropes!) is 95% of the tent, who work for these companies and decline to have a common sense attitude to product longevity or customer loyalty.

Had enough now, I just wanted to get a replacement outer of a reccomendation of a good brand name, not this. Why is there always one with the smiley faces, sarcastic comments and little to contribute on any forum nowadays.

Thanks to all who gave serious advice.

Mark



16/10/2011 at 10:29pm
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Sorry you haven't got what you were looking for Mark.  However keep an eye out for "faulty" tents on ebay, I also got a very good item from the outlet mentioned in safeways link and this may be the easiest way of resolving your problem.  Good luck.



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