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Quote: Originally posted by john,mel,3kids! on 06/9/2018

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I bet we would be looking north of £4000 for a karsten set up which would give enough room for a family and pets,
They do look nice and will last and last no doubt, but where does camping and common sense meet?

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Quote: Originally posted by Mitchamitri on 07/9/2018

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It can be quite a difficult argument that spending £4k on a tent is a good idea - my wife would never buy second hand and for that money the instant comparison including camping kit etc is two weeks five star abroad. It's not an investment in that case.   I guess it's extremely rare for anyone's first tent to be a karsten as much as it's rare for anyone's first car to be an Aston Martin. For us, we will stick with our cheapo polyester tent until our family have flown the nest then maybe upgrade to a karsten , but by then we won't have to holiday at peak season and it'll only be the two of us so five star hotels here we come -:we will be camping less I am sure, which will make the karsten a luxury item . I do think it's easy to forget most people start camping because it's a cheap family holiday, not because they covet the very best tents , titanium cooking stoves, and £500 self inflating mattresses that roll up to the size of a peanut.   For many of us it's damp loo roll , swingball, and baked beans, and if it falls apart thats a risk you take or you end up doing nothing.    
Karsten 's seem to me to be the very best tents but it's not right for everyone

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Quote: Originally posted by Mitchamitri on 07/9/2018

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It can be quite a difficult argument that spending £4k on a tent is a good idea - my wife would never buy second hand and for that money the instant comparison including camping kit etc is two weeks five star abroad. It's not an investment in that case.   I guess it's extremely rare for anyone's first tent to be a karsten as much as it's rare for anyone's first car to be an Aston Martin. For us, we will stick with our cheapo polyester tent until our family have flown the nest then maybe upgrade to a karsten , but by then we won't have to holiday at peak season and it'll only be the two of us so five star hotels here we come -:we will be camping less I am sure, which will make the karsten a luxury item . I do think it's easy to forget most people start camping because it's a cheap family holiday, not because they covet the very best tents , titanium cooking stoves, and £500 self inflating mattresses that roll up to the size of a peanut.   For many of us it's damp loo roll , swingball, and baked beans, and if it falls apart thats a risk you take or you end up doing nothing.    
Karsten 's seem to me to be the very best tents but it's not right for everyone

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Quote: Originally posted by quilly101 on 23/6/2016

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My Montana is polycotton, not polyester. I am biased towards it as we have had it a long time. Once we get the additional pod for the Karsten at the end of the year (this will then give us the same room we had in the Montana) I suspect that if you were to then ask me again the answer would be definitely Karsten, Purplebean made a fair point about how they 'feel' when you see one in the flesh as it were. My 5m bell is one of the heavier weight versions at 320gm and the Karsten is a similar weight canvas. They're both very reassuring to be in, but the Karsten is far easier to put up and has more windows than my bell.

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Quote: Originally posted by OzBoi on 30/6/2019

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Very interesting comments re ease of setup - I guess an air tent with maybe an electric pump, v's a single pole, but heavy material in the bell. How about the guying? - is there much additional guying for the bell over the Karsten pod?

Many thanks :-)

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