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27/5/2007 at 9:55pm
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After finding this great site and getting some advice about 2 tents we have decided on a Coleman Wyoming 6. Have chosen this tent for waterproofness, shape and quality make - also like the idea of a few windows - we're off to Glastonbury working for Oxfam for 10 nights and usually get a horrendous storm halfway thru - theres only 3 of us but decided the space might be handy if the weather gets to its usual degree! - we've seen tents literally ripped out of the ground and washed away there in the past.

Can anyone tell me what this tent is like to erect, or any other info.

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28/5/2007 at 2:53pm
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any advice or recommendations?

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28/5/2007 at 9:01pm
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Hi,

Yes, I have the same tent and have pitched it twice, once in the garden (by myself)as a practice (which I'd recommend - the practice that is, NOT doing it by yourself !!) and once the weekend before this one just gone, which was also spectacularly wild wet and windy. Fortunately, a helpful chap from the tent next door came and helped, otherwise I'd probably have ripped the tent or broken a pole in the wind.

Let me start by saying that in all but the mildest conditions, it's a two-man job to put it up. The three poles which form the dome (the lowest one is the rightmost as you face the main door) will insert fairly easily, but two people will help to prevent snagging - I did tear one of the sleeves slightly on the windy night.

You can insert the side poles as well if there are two of you - I left these out initially as I was by myself and didn't want the extra weight to contend with, but with two it would be easier to insert them whilst the tent is flat - it can be done once the dome is up, but isn't as easy.

There are 3 tapes crossing the central dome from pole-end to other-pole-end. These tapes have a number of brass pole rings stamped into them at the ends. Ideally you would thread one pole end into just one end of each tape prior to lifting the dome. And peg down at least one tape upwind to stop any nasty accidents. There are also tapes running sideways from pole to pole.

ENSURE that the outermost hole of each tape is left free for a peg in all cases. When bending the poles it's easy to pick the outermost hole as an easy option. Don't do it .... you'll need it for a peg, so bend a little further. If you DO use the inner holes for a peg, you'll find the pole ends are more likely to ping free of the tape. As I was scurrying round my tent wondering what the hell was going on, it finally dawned on me that the pegs were causing the problem.

One of you has to go under the tent, find the middle where the poles cross, and lift. The other person then needs to flex the other pole ends one-by one, and get them into the tapes.

Then spread the poles until the 3 crossing tapes and the 'sideways' tapes are all taut, then peg the outer rings on each tape.

You can then do the other two long bedroom poles. The low bedroom corners each have a short pole which is inserted up into a sleeve - the pointy end should be down. You then thread another tape hole over the pointy end, and adjust a tensioning strap to lock that pole in position. That tensioning strap isn't immediately obvious, as it is kind of tucked under the inside of the tent.

You then have from each corner a strap which should be pegged out at 45 degrees to the corner, and then tension adjusted.

Between the corners there are two short guys which lift a ventilation flap, but they also provide tension to the bedroom top, so don't skip on pegging them (or any others, for that matter).

Around the outside of the tent, the mudflaps should be pegged outwards - they are not supposed to be tucked under the groundsheet or anything. On some of the flaps at the front you can use one peg for two flap ends.

Some of the guys are a little long for pegging at 45 degrees. I also doubled up my guys with a bright-coloured cord - the ones provided are reflective for night-time, but practically invisible during the daytime, so be warned.

Inside the tent there are adjustment straps at some of the dome-pole ends which can tighten the flysheet. The bedrooms are more or less self-explanatory. There is red tag colour coding to tell you which is the middle mounting toggle. At the lower corners of the bedrooms (at the entry side), there are insertion clips which fasten to the main dome frame tapes. These can be tightened to draw things together - you might need to do this if you find there is too much tension on the bedroom mounting toggles.

The groundsheet is a hexagon, and mine seems to be a little larger than strictly required - or so I thought at first - remember to peg those mudflaps outwards.

Enjoy your tent. With two or more of you putting it up should be a doddle. Mine was totally waterproof with the slight exception that strong wind can force some water in at the door zips if you don't orientate the tent back into the wind. I hadn't done that, but it wasn't a big deal, and I simply ensured the door bug screen was zipped closed which guided the very occasional errant drip back towards the outside. It was the force of the wind that caused this - normally it wouldn't be a problem.

It would be worth buying a few extra pegs: in windy conditions I found myself cross-pegging upwind, which left me short for some of the downwind mudflaps.

I had no problems with condensation - the tent is very well ventilated. I guess that can be a blessing or a curse.

Oh, and there's a right way and a wrong way to attach a guy rope to a peg, I discovered, on that very windy night, in the dark !! More scurrying, more scratching the head, then the reason for self-untensioning guy-ropes finally dawned on me. Lesson learned !! Ensure the peg is through the final loop of guy !!

Any questions, please feel free to ask away.

Cheers, Simon

 

 

 



28/5/2007 at 11:06pm
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Hi Simon

thanks so much for your fantastically helpful detailed reply! - we're going to have a go putting it up when it arrives at the end of this week. I'm also going to print out your advice for ref. and will def get spare poles, some coloured guy rope and extra pegs - good plan!

wondered if it might be worth getting an extra groundsheet to go underneath - what dyou think? - wasn't sure if it had a SIG but sounds like it doesn't but not worried about that as it has the mud flaps.

I looked at loads of tents before deciding on this one - sounds a bit complicated to put up but it will be a learning experience!!

thanks so much again for your help

Best wishes

Chi



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29/5/2007 at 9:55am
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Hi,

It's really not that complex, just 3 long poles, 2 medium ones (which are yellow colour coded) and 4 very short ones. The key is to get someone inside and under the tent to lift the point where the 3 main poles cross after the poles are inserted. There's a spare pole section in the kitbag, so i wouldn't necessarily worry about getting spare bits of pole unless a hurricane is forecast :o). I don't think it needs another groundsheet - whatever you lay down is likely to get grubby underneath, so just make sure it always gets laid grubby side down. It isn't a SIG, by the way. You'll need a fair bit of room - the tent isn't too deep but is quite wide. It's nice and spacious inside - with practice I'm sure I'll be able to put it up quicker.

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29/5/2007 at 11:43pm
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Thanks for all your help Simon    - i'll let you know how we get on!!

Best wishes Chi



30/5/2007 at 3:01pm
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Hi guys

I have the same tent and would agree with Simon's instructions. Have put it up four times now, once with only my 8-yr-old daughter to help! From the point of view of orientating the tent, it helps to be aware of the colour coding on the plastic roof section. There are coloured straps ataching the plastic cover to the ventilation system at the top of the dome. The two black straps attach to either side of the main entrance (awning). There are red straps attached above the zips to the side entrances, and yellow straps mark the back of the tent.

Simon, I was wondering if you know anything about spares or repairs. On our recent outing (whit weekend) we managed to tear the seam where one of the small windows attaches to a side door. Have taped it up, but would prefer to get it mended properly. Also, a section of one of the yellow poles has split. Will be living in the tent for three weeks in July/Aug!

Any ideas??

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30/5/2007 at 3:25pm
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Hi,

Good point about the plastic ventilation rain shield colour codes. Worth noting that it comes pre-attached and correctly aligned, so there's no reason to adjust it. Which begs the question - why did I mess around with mine?   I guess some people just can't help tinkering !!

I've never repaired a tent, so can't really comment I'm afraid: probably worth starting a thread on the subject of seam repairs as this thread is a bit specific on Wyomings for most people to comment on.

As for the damaged pole - I'd replace that section. Obviously there's a spare section in the kit bag, but I'd just use that to go to a shop and get a same-size replacement (or three). I also can't recall if the kit bag comes with a pole bungee re-threading kit - I bought one anyway just in case - it was only about 4 quid I think. I just needed it for the long wire really - I guess in hindsight I could have come up with a cheaper alternative, but 4 quid isn't much really.

3 weeks !!   Crikey !!   Hope the weather improves for you.

Cheers, Simon



30/5/2007 at 5:01pm
 Location: Scotland
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One suggestion - invest in some delta pegs.  You won't regret it if you expecting stormy weather.

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07/6/2007 at 12:58pm
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Hi guys - have sort of successfully managed to put the tent up with 2 of us doing it and Simons fantastic instructions - thanks again Simon.

2 problemos!

seem to have a massive gap where the bedroom pods are - can't seem to get the outer skin to touch the ground whatever i do made sure all the tapes are taut and poles look okish (maybe could be a bit tighter overall)- and found the straps complicated which is essentially one strap that is in a triangle shape - any ideas??

also have also discovered a tear on one of the side door seams where there is a window - it's a second hand tent and i've got in touch with the person who sold it to me but any ideas on repairs and if it's poss to get it restitched?

am pleased with the tent - nice and spacious but bedrooms seem a bit small in terms of height esp. with the way i've put it up!

all advice gratefully received!!

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10/6/2007 at 11:27pm
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Hi,

Well, I suppose it depends on what you mean by massive !!  As I understand it, the flysheet around the bedroom pods isn't supposed to reach all the way to the ground. Coleman advertise this 'feature' as AirFlo or ClearFlo or BigDraught :o) or somesuch. Mine certainly stands about 3-4 inches clear off the ground around the bedroom pods. As I mentioned - it's well-ventilated and doesn't suffer from condensation problems :o)

Not sure about the triangular strap you mentioned. Is it in the dome (in which case, is it the one that the bedroom inner clips into using one of those squeezy clips), or is it the triangular tape at the outer corners of the bedroom pods that you're referring to ? Or something else ?

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11/6/2007 at 7:32pm
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Hi

didn't realise quite how good the ventilation was sposed to be - hope we won't be too chilly with that big gap!

i sussed the triangular tapes out in the end as didn't quite read your instructions properly - wondered what the little grey poles were for but now realise they are part of the bedroon tensioning system

any idea about fixing the tear on the stitching of the side window?

thanks Simon - think of me at Glastonbury if we have a storm as usual!

best wishes

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.

I can't advise you about the tent but make sure you go and see "The Who" when your at glastonbury.

They might be gettin on a bit but they are still the best !

 

 



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hi - will make sure of it! - lived in Brighton when they made Quadrophenia - also can't wait to see Shirley Bassey!

what about fixing this tent tho? - are there places that will restitch them?

thanks Chi



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Hi Chihuahua

Get yourself some tenacious tape.  It is matt and clear and sticks to anything.  I picked some up at my local camping shop , but it is also available online.  Any restiching would nee proper reproofing so that the new holes made by the sewing are made waterproof.  Some camping shops do repairs  so you could also maybe ask around.  I think you'll find the tenacious tape does the job. 

Here   is what you need to look for.

and here gives a good description of how to use it.



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11/6/2007 at 8:44pm
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Hi - thanks for the excellent advice - will try and get some this week - probably not enough time to get some online

best wishes

Chi




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