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Looking to upgrade to a tent with a bigger living area and a porch and ideally a sewn in groundsheet.  Vango diablo and Outwell Hartford L look to be the right size and shape (we are 2 adults and 2 children) but both are inner first pitching and we would prefer flysheet first so that the inner doesn't get wet and you have a shelter when you're taking the tent down.

Can anyone suggest similar tents to these two but with flysheet first pitching - presumably they would be without a sig.  Or can anyone make a good case for inner first pitching.

Thanks in anticipation for your help.  I've been studying brochures and websites for weeks now and am no nearer the answer!  Budget is about £200.

Hi everyone,

We have a Vango Aspen 700 dlx 2006 model which is inner first. The inner is up within 20 minutes and because they are designed so that air circulates between the outer and inner quite freely it dries in no time. The advantages are a more robust tent that stands up to torrential rain and gales without condensating or collapsing. plus you have lots of extra headroom and oceans more bedroom space.

Kind regards

Jo

Quote: Originally posted by joannief on 01/7/2007

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Looking to upgrade to a tent with a bigger living area and a porch and ideally a sewn in groundsheet.  Vango diablo and Outwell Hartford L look to be the right size and shape (we are 2 adults and 2 children) but both are inner first pitching and we would prefer flysheet first so that the inner doesn't get wet and you have a shelter when you're taking the tent down.

Can anyone suggest similar tents to these two but with flysheet first pitching - presumably they would be without a sig.  Or can anyone make a good case for inner first pitching.

Thanks in anticipation for your help.  I've been studying brochures and websites for weeks now and am no nearer the answer!  Budget is about £200.

 

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Hi, we did the same research prior to buying our latest Khyam. Looked at the Vango Diablo and the Outwells...but as you rightly say...they pitch inner first....

And before any of you get stuck into the serious debate of pitch inner first vs fly first...how have you all done pitching inners first in the recent weather?

I wouldn't want a sig anyway as (again another big debating point) I would rather have the adjustabe ventilation. The Khyam Nebraska is a good tent, good quality and will definitely tick a lot of your boxes.

Nick

We have just got back from a very wet weekend with the Diablo 600.I can see your point about pitching but it's just a personal choice really.I have an Outwell which pitches fly first but it makes no real difference to us,the inner will dry quick anyway if it gets wet.

The Diablo has good ventilation too around the inner so don't worry about the sig.

Good luck with your decision !!

Quote: Originally posted by Victor Khyam on 01/7/2007

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Quote: Originally posted by joannief on 01/7/2007

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Can anyone suggest similar tents to these two but with flysheet first pitching - presumably they would be without a sig.  Or can anyone make a good case for inner first pitching.

Thanks in anticipation for your help.  I've been studying brochures and websites for weeks now and am no nearer the answer!  Budget is about £200.

 

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Hi, we did the same research prior to buying our latest Khyam. Looked at the Vango Diablo and the Outwells...but as you rightly say...they pitch inner first....

And before any of you get stuck into the serious debate of pitch inner first vs fly first...how have you all done pitching inners first in the recent weather?

I wouldn't want a sig anyway as (again another big debating point) I would rather have the adjustabe ventilation. The Khyam Nebraska is a good tent, good quality and will definitely tick a lot of your boxes.

Nick

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Very quickly lol !!! Seriously though we have pitched in the rain but as has been pointed out the rain appears to stop when we are pitching the inner but even if that were not the case , it really would not take long to dry,and once the fly is on weather can do what it wants (within reason of course !! )

Thank you for all your replies - it's certainly given me food for thought. 

But must admit I'm no nearer making a decision.  Been thinking about the Gelert Lokon Vario now which I've read good things about (ie the opposite to my other two preferences)!  Mrs Indecisive!

This is a great site - I'm hooked!

Hi, we got a 2006 Diablo 600 for £199. Very nice tent, takes us about 45 mins to put up, (it is much easier with two people)a lot of that is pegging out and adjusting guys. 600 has plenty space for 2 adults & 2 kids though extra pod on 900 wouldn't come in wrong. If had bigger car would consider big frame tent but for now Diablo is fine.

Mo