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05/3/2008 at 5:16pm
 Location: High Wycombe
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Just got my new Vermont XL (2008) - Fantastic!

Put it up in the backgarden in about 45 mins - piece of cake!

Spent an hour and a half trying to fold and roll it so it fits back in to its bag - surely this not possible and it was a figment of my imagination that I got it out of the bag in the first place!

Can anyone please offer me a sliver of hope in the form of advice?

Yours in hope

Ploppy



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05/3/2008 at 7:37pm
 Location: Great wryley west midlands
 Outfit: outwell vermont xl
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I always fold ours away with the bag on one end to see how wide it has to be, to get in the bag. When you have a tube the width of the bag, get some victim in the family to roll up and down the tent to get the air out, do this a few times with each fold. Getting the air out is most important, so leave a door or window partially unzipped to allow the air to get out. Cheers.


05/3/2008 at 7:53pm
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Ploppy

Over the years, I too had real problems. However since discovering the ancient skills of folding, its been plain sailing.

see here for online instructions

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOUgrJo2kIg&feature=related


05/3/2008 at 7:58pm
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hi does anybody have a very large bag for ploppy to put his tent back in it has been said he could sit on it with his weight that should do the trick but if ayone has any other ways please forward them to him before we get to bagwell he will need all the help he can get cheers fire261


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05/3/2008 at 8:09pm
 Location: West Scotland Helensburgh
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We have the same problem with ours.  We've ended up keeping the poles separate (they came in the main bag but with another bag round them) which is apparently good practice when it's in storage. When we take the tent down on camp it generally gets put in a bin bag in the car and is folded properly when it's been dried and aired at home, saves alot of arguments!

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05/3/2008 at 8:47pm
 Location: High Wycombe
 Outfit: Nr. Nimrod
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Thanks Crappie, Adrianc, Fire261and Elvis

You give me great hope and I will keep on trying

Adrianc: I was particularly impressed with your Youtube idea of turning it into a work of art - it would at least look a little bit better than it does at the moment; looking like an unloved sausage roll in the corner of the lounge.



05/3/2008 at 9:29pm
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Ploppy

you really shouldnt leave sausage rolls unloved in the corner, particularly with the H about...

Another option might be to cut up the tent into smaller pieces

Please wait till Bagwell and provide us with some entertainment (and revenge)


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05/3/2008 at 11:02pm
 Location: S Mcr Cheshire
 Outfit: Vermont XL
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Ploppy - apologies for asking an unrelated question - how many people do you think can realistically sleep in the smaller bedrooms? Is the detachable one on the right as you look in smaller than the one on the left (I know dimensions say not but it looks it on pictures and I can't find anywhere that has one pitched for me to look at).

Got 3 boys 7,5 and 3 adn trying to work out if this tent is suitable.

TIA



06/3/2008 at 9:21am
 Location: High Wycombe
 Outfit: Nr. Nimrod
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Tia - I only put it up for 5 mins as rain was threating but I am pretty confident in saying it sounds ideal for you; very large and wide.

At a casual glance the bedrooms all looked the same size, the middle one is bigger but not a great deal so - the two outside ones appear to be the same size.

I would have no problem at all in recommending it to you for a family with three boys; I bought mine from Outdoor Action it was the cheapest I could find £470 - all other sites £500 (£499)  

Make sure you get the 2008 model as the 2007 one does have a smaller right hand bedroom.

 



06/3/2008 at 9:25am
 Location: S Mcr Cheshire
 Outfit: Vermont XL
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Oh thanks for that - I watched a video and the right hand room looked smaller but it's more than likely a 2007 model in the video isn't it?

Have had some other advice on another thread about using mats to 'carpet' the floor, rather than airbed, for the boys so I think it will work.

Thanks for your advice - oh yes, I did see it on that website for £470.

(by the way, TIA is 'thanks in advance' on another website I post on, so it's not my name - sorry for confusion!)

 



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06/3/2008 at 7:19pm
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ploppy i too have mastered the art of folding so much so that i now no longer have to fold things without people watching me it took time but i am now a second dan


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05/5/2008 at 5:38pm
 Location: Barrow
 Outfit: Outwell Vermont XL
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OK, After much searching on the web last night i found the yeomans outdoors video on how to put up the tent and how to strike similar tents in the outwell range.

However after not really finding any useful guide to how to strike an Outwell Vermont XL so it fits back in the bag, we decided to go and try for ourselves.

These are the instructions we came up with.

1. Take out and tie up the surrounding guy Ropes Except the one on the 4 corners.

2. Make sure the front door and the inner door are open including the doors to the bedrooms. we left a side door open but this may not make much difference.

3. Take out poles 2 & 4 including the roof poles.

4. Drop the front half of the tent towards the middle of the tent and tie up the guy ropes.

5. loosen the remaining poles by taking them off the pins at the bottom.

6. remove the remaining pegs and lower the back section of the tent towards the middle of the tent.

The tent should now be flat and deflating by it's self.

7. remove the remaining poles & tie up remaining guy ropes.

Ready to start the folding process

8. fold the front of the tent into the middle so the sewn in ground sheet is at the front edge.

9. make sure the back edge is straight.

With 2 people

10. stand one on each side of the tent and fold the front and back into the middle of the tent so you are folding the upper to upper and the sewn in ground sheet is now showing on the top.

11. now move round so you are front and back, then fold the edges into the middle again.

this is the main trick

12. still in this elevation fold the tent into 1/3rds, this is the right size to fit into the Vermont XL bag.

13. now make sure you have all your pegs and place the peg bag on the end you are to start rolling from, we rolled from back to front.

14. place the back at the opposite end ready to accept the rolled tent.

15. now roll the tent making sure all air is removed as you roll.

16. when you get to the end the tent should pop straight into the bag with room to spare.

note, after each folding step you need to ensure you get as much air from the tent as you can.

This way of folding the Outwell Vermont XL will ensure minimal dirt to transfer onto the white upper of the tent, as it's protected inside the sewn in ground sheet.

Hope this helps someone else, as i would have loved to have had this knowledge before erecting my new tent.

happy striking,

Stu


05/5/2008 at 5:43pm
 Location: Barrow
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just realised that step 14 should say bag and not back --- oops,

Stu


05/5/2008 at 5:46pm
 Location: Sherwood Forest
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Reply to Elphaba - we sleep with a queen size bed in the middle pod for hubby and I, my very tall teenager sleeps in the left hand pod but could easily fit two and our three year old in the right hand.  This comfortably sleeps us all - wouldnt like to try it for 7 tho! 

 

With regard to folding back in the bag we dont put the inner wardrobe compartment in as  we dont use it.  Have the portable on  top of a rigid unit there.



05/5/2008 at 7:20pm
 Location: Weymouth
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We fold ours this way:

1.  Leave front and side doors open and make sure that bedroom pods are also open and that the inside section is unzipped to allow air flow.

2.  Fold the tent in half lengthways.

3.  Then fold into 3 lengthways.

4.  Starting at the back end my hubby rolls the tent towards the front whilst I go just ahead keeping the folded part in place (if that makes any sense!).

5.  Have the bag ready at the end and the tent simply rolls into it.

We've never had problem with trapped air (in the tent!) and this method hasn't failed us yet.

Give it a try and let us know if it works for you!



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05/5/2008 at 10:26pm
 Location: S Mcr Cheshire
 Outfit: Vermont XL
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Midge - we had our first outing in the XL this weekend (fabbo!) and did the same as you to get back in the bag. We left bedroom doors open and also porch but next time will leave all open. The trick was me rolling up and down the tent with each fold - it gave everyone a good laugh as a bonus! Ha ha!

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