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Subject Topic: Tent material - hot weather Post Reply Post New Topic
26/5/2008 at 7:28pm
 Location: Winslow
 Outfit: Khyam Ridgi-dome XXL - 1999
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My 1999 Khyam is a polycotton tent. It was a 1000mm hydrostatic head when new and last year the seams leaked badly when caught in a day and a half of storm on the Isle of Wight.

So we are looking for a new family tent, possibly Outwell Nebraska XL or Royal Pescara. The sales guy at the last shop said that this type of tent with coated polyester flysheets will be too hot for the South of France where we are going this summer and we should buy polycotton again.

After a quick search we can't find a polycotton tent that has the size and footprint we like and polycotton is a lot more expensive.

So, at last to the questions. Are the modern polyester tents too hot for the Med? Is polycotton available with 3000mm or 5000mm HH?


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26/5/2008 at 7:46pm
 Location: Norfampton
 Outfit: Outwell Norfolk Lake & Hartford M
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Hydrostatic Head is usually only quoted for nylon. 

Polycotton will be cooler but they will take up more room.  If you get a nylon tent, try to get one that opens up for ventilation.

Why not treat the seams on your Khyam polycotton with Fabsil?  Saves the expense of a new tent.


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26/5/2008 at 8:01pm
 Location: Winslow
 Outfit: Khyam Ridgi-dome XXL - 1999
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Hi Brainhertz

Found the hydrostatic head figure in the tent manual.

We tried some roll on seam sealer during the storm but it didn't help. I will try the fabsil once we have a dry weekend and I'm free. However the Khyam is getting crowded now the kids are bigger, 4 teenagers now. So leaks and lack of space makes a new tent look a good idea.


26/5/2008 at 8:13pm
 Location: OLDHAM
 Outfit: KYHAM XXL Sterling Eccles Emerald
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To be honest I would give the khyam a coat of Fabsil and some seem sealer, a lot less than buying a new tent of matching quality.  The other option is to go for a cotton frame tent.  Have a look on the Tent review  at Cabanon.   I am sure others will be along with other options. 


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26/5/2008 at 9:29pm
 Location: South Devon
 Outfit: Vango Diablo Cabanon Wild Country
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have to say the nylon tent we have we would get way too hot in it, I wouldopt for canvas - what about secondhand cabanon e-bay?


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27/5/2008 at 12:32am
 Location: Coventry
 Outfit: Cabanon Elody & Julie & Combicamp
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Hi Raveninghorde & welcome to the forum

If you have enough space in the car to transport a canvas frame tent, then that's the way to go   Canvas frame tents last up to 30 years, so even if you buy a secondhand one that's 10 years old, it will still last you another 20 years.

Synthetic tents can feel like you're walking into an oven, even in British summers. Therefore you'll be baking during the night in the south of France  



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27/5/2008 at 9:58am
 Location: Winslow
 Outfit: Khyam Ridgi-dome XXL - 1999
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Thanks for the replies.

It looks like I'll spend the time sealing the seams on my current tent.

Having scanned other discussions on here I'm in the market for a canvas frame tent. Looking on the net last night I am surprised how few new models there are, particularly in the 6-8 person size. Currently looking at Cabanon or a Marachel compact luxe 6 being advertised at £549. I'll have to spend a few evenings on ebay.


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27/5/2008 at 12:09pm
 Location: London
 Outfit: Weathermaster 1974
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Lots of good frame tents on ebay Raven as mentioned...also, just to let you into a little secret...dutch tent sites sell a lot more cotton and poly/cotton tents than in the UK and an awful lot cheaper too... have a good look around on this site for example, don't forget prices in euros so £ price about what 85%! This is just the first one I saw..

http://www.obelink.nl/ws/assortiment_overzichtpagina3.asp?cat=1&id=14&arid=2686

Or what a bought a bell tent, 4M or 5M, fantastic and cool in the sun and with the fasten up side walls you will be the envy of all!!!  Quick to erect and very stable in the wind.They now come with seperate bedroom attatchments if a little privacy is required. Again, they are a third cheaper from Holland., a 4M with fixed groundsheet, ie the walls can't lift, is about £220 in Holland, about £360 over here.



27/5/2008 at 4:50pm
 Location: Bergamo Italy
 Outfit:  ESVO Pyramid & Ridge
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Have to echo all that has been said about a nylon tent being too hot in the Med.
We had our first family camping trip in 2005, in Corsica, in a nylon tent.
It was very uncomfortable due to the heat.
in 2006 in Puglia it as pretty much the same story, 'though we had a few thunder storms to cool the air a bit, but still too hot for comfort.
I've just taken ownership of a 4 man cotton ESVO tent for this summers trip back to Corsica and am looking forward to it, (we were apprehensive about repeating the oven baked experience of previous years.)

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27/5/2008 at 7:16pm
 Location: Warwick (Land of the Kingmaker)
 Outfit:  Espace Montreal Laguna Khyam Santiago
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Espace would suit your needs, never sell for more than £400. Down side it fills the boot due to size.

Or watch out for Aruba or Athena with extra sleeping extension normally sell for up to £300.



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28/5/2008 at 1:38pm
 Location: Winslow
 Outfit: Khyam Ridgi-dome XXL - 1999
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I've checked the specification of the Cabanon Aruba and Espace and the roof is PVC coated polyester.

Reading one of Foggers posts he said pvc coated polyester has a camping life of about 20 weeks. Canvas tents are meant to last 20+ years. SO it would appear that the roof will fail well before the rest of the tent. Is this correct? It seems odd as Cabanon seems highly recommended as a quality tent.


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29/5/2008 at 12:00am
 Location: Surrey
 Outfit: Outwell SunValley6 -Quechua 4.2 -VWEos
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I found this:

The Khyam Indiana 8 TC features a polycotton flysheet. Full details are on www.khyam.co.uk

Price £349



29/5/2008 at 12:06am
 Location: Surrey
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Apologies for the large font on the previous message, it was from a copy and paste. We too have been looking at tents for hot climates and have considered reviewnig the Australian manufacturers (perhaps Coleman Australia and Oztrail) to see how they cope with the heat.



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