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Topic: Royal Bordeaux 6 XL ZG, leak problem?
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26/8/2008 at 8:53pm
Location: High Wycombe Outfit: Diablo 900
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Blimey Mandy, that is the exact description of all the faults with ours!! Ripped front canopy, leaks in the kitchen area & the seam between the kitchen and living area and when we packed away we found pools of water under the bedroom area and to the right hand side of the tent! We had no bother with PJ Camping, they simply took ours back & they exchanged it, no quibbles. We erected the replacement in the back garden for a few days, just to check, as I did not want to go away again and find any nasty suprises. Guess what? It leaked in the kitchen area and the seam between the the kitchen & living area!! Have taken this one back and got a credit note for my £430 from PJ Camping. To their credit they have given me options:
1) Take another one from the next manufacturing batch in case it was a build error from a certain period.
2) Offered to give me a Vango "Nile" which is similar in spec, but for me not an option. The Royal had the seperate kitchen & Storage area which is why it won our vote in the first place, (two kids 9 & 3 and a cooker in the same area of a tent at the same time is a catastrophe waiting to happen).
3) Wait until the end of September, when they will have been to the tent trade exhibition, (1st week or two of September, in Warwickshire I think), where they believe "SprayWay" will be exhibiting for the first time. PJ Camping think that "Sprayway" will be bringing out a very similar tent. Flysheet first and a complete inner lining as well? If they can't manufacter a waterproof tent then who can? After all they have been making waterproof jackets for years! This is their first year at tents I am led to believe, though I may be mistaken.
We stayed in Cornwall on two sites, both small & friendly, Heath Farm near Coverack and Little Treginses in St Keverne on the other side of the Coverack Bay. Only 2.9 miles apart from each other. Both great but for different reasons.
------------- Chalky
It's not a beer belly, it's a fuel tank for a sex machine!
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26/8/2008 at 9:46pm
Location: None Entered Outfit: Quechua 4.2 Full & 2 Second Air 3 Man
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HI there Chalky 47,
I have just returned my second Sprayway Valley 8. First one tore/came unstitched in one of the main doorways. The second one tore along the guy line points on the sun canopy and the tab where the guy line is tied on ripped clean off the canopy too. We had two nights of pretty blustery weather along with torrential downpours but the tent didn't seem to leak anywhere. My youngest son's sleeping bag was a bit damp where I hadn't closed the air vent and the rain was blown straight into his bedroom. I found a few storage bags and bits blowing around the site because the storage area at the back of the bedrooms doesn't have SIG and the wind blew the bags out from under the fly sheet. Also, the tension straps along the front and at the rear corners would not stay tight once they were wet. Pegging the loops was the only option, but there aren't enough pegs supplied for all of those as well.
To sum up, no leaks but does not stay taut in wind and rain and needs more strength at the pegging and guy line points, especially around the sun canopy. I would not recommend the Sprayway at the moment. They obviously have a few teething issues which need to be ironed out. However, I do still really like the clever design and space provided. Some people have criticised the amount of draughts caused by the air vents, but I prefer a bit of fresh air and anyway, they all velcro shut if you can be bothered to loosen the guys! Hopefully Sprayway will take note of the many criticisms (many on this site in the Tent Review section) levelled at their range of Valley tents and improve for next year. Their reputation does rather depend on it!
We are now looking at the Vango Nile 800 which is very similar to the Valley 8, and also the Royal Bordeaux 6 XL, although I'm not so sure about splitting the living area up into sections unless they can be opened up if you want. It seems rather restrictive to me, and we have never had any issues with the kids (9 and 7) and cookers...we do however peg the cooker stand to the ground to make it more stable which we would not be able to do if we used the utility area of the Royal Bordeaux 6XL to cook in!
Enough waffle from me!
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