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18/10/2008 at 12:28pm
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Sorry to keep asking advice but, we need to know & I'd rather learn by asking than by my usual costly mistakes.

When we erect our tent, it has fitted guy ropes on it. How far out from the tent do these need to be please? Will I be well advised to buy some of the delta pegs I see mentioned on here? will I need one for every guy rope? our tent is an Outwell Hartford xxl & has loads of guy ropes on it but no clear instructions & I assume the placing of the guy ropes is very important to the stability of the tent.

I've got loads of plastic pegs we used with our caravan awning & I've also got ten groundscrews which I used on the main points on our awning when we were open to storms coming in straight from the sea. I realise the tent is going to be a very ifferent beast but, the metal L shaped pegs that came with it don't seem very capable to me.

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18/10/2008 at 1:17pm
 Location: Cumbria (Upper Eden Valley)
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We use the groundscrew type pegs for pegging the tent out (like you we had them for our awnings), deltas for each guy line and the ordinary ones (that came with the tent) just for the porch groundsheet. We peg our guys out different everytime but I go round every morning to make sure they haven't slackened off too much during the night, especially if the weather has been a bit off. I suppose there must be an optimim angle for pegging out guys but hopefully it's just something you learn as you go along.

How long was Rex going away for? One of the others may come along and be able to give you a bettter answer soon.



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18/10/2008 at 1:32pm
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I try to pitch the guy ropes as an extension of the tent seams at an angle of 45 degrees if possible. If you use these.. http://www.cleats.co.uk/home/details.asp?id=4 in conjunction with Delta Pegs your tent should remain rock solid.


18/10/2008 at 1:37pm
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Thanks for that Keely, when I look at pictures of our tent pitched & watch the video of it being pitched, the angle of the guys isn't given. I want to be careful with it so we can get away with sticking to one pitch charge.

Thanks very much for replying, no doubt I'll learn more every time we use the tent but, I tend to worry about getting it right. If anyone's going to look like a right charlie on site, it's yours truly.

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18/10/2008 at 1:44pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Safeway56 on 18/10/2008
I try to pitch the guy ropes as an extension of the tent seams at an angle of 45 degrees if possible. If you use these.. http://www.cleats.co.uk/home/details.asp?id=4 in conjunction with Delta Pegs your tent should remain rock solid.

I hadn't thought of that Safeway, as we've only played at pitching it in the garden to make sure it's all there, we haven't actually undone all the guy lines on it yet but, I see where you're coming from & the reply is appreciated.

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As a rule of thumb, the angle of the guys should be not more than 45 degrees to the ground.  Generally the further out they are the stronger they are.  The pegs should be at 90 degrees to the angle of the guy.

You certainly need strong pegs on the main guys, these can be rock pegs or Deltas.

There will undoubtedly be others along to tell you that Deltas are essential, but I have camped for fifty years and on the few occasions that I have lost a tent it has been during winter gales due to the poles or guys going, not the pegs.



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18/10/2008 at 1:50pm
 Location: Cumbria (Upper Eden Valley)
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Everytime we pitch we have the guy line 'conversation'.

He pegs out and I go round and tell him to unpeg and do it again cos it looks all  wrong  As Safeway said  I try to pitch the guy ropes as an extension of the tent seams at an angle of 45 degrees if possible that's what we try and aim for.



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19/10/2008 at 10:15am
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Out of interest, do you peg some guys together, or all guys on their own. On our last trip I noticed everyone had their own way of doing it but I wondered if there was a better way.


19/10/2008 at 4:31pm
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Guys pegged in line with the seams  and out at 45 degrees, pegs 45 degrees inward, you should now have a right angle with the guy and peg.   The pegs which arrived with the tent keep as spares and get yourself some proper ones.  

Double pegging main guys a no no ...........  

Never mind what anyone else is doing,  it's your tent and your safety and your peace of mind.

 



19/10/2008 at 7:14pm
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Oldham - is that pegging two guys into one peg you mean?

 

 



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19/10/2008 at 8:52pm
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Quote: Originally posted by oldham on 19/10/2008

Guys pegged in line with the seams  and out at 45 degrees, pegs 45 degrees inward, you should now have a right angle with the guy and peg.   The pegs which arrived with the tent keep as spares and get yourself some proper ones.  

Double pegging main guys a no no ...........  

Never mind what anyone else is doing,  it's your tent and your safety and your peace of mind.

 


Hello Oldham

I've been looking at your gallery pictures, where's the site by the big beach please? we take kayaks with us & therefore a site by the beach is right at the top of our list. Do you think they'll object to big tents there?

Thanks for the advice on pitching, the pegging out of our new tent is going to be a test for me next season, there'll be a few of our caravanning friends there waiting to see the tent take off.

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19/10/2008 at 9:46pm
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First my apologies

Should have read double guying to one peg  a no no

( double pegging     i.e.  two pegs to one guy can be useful  )

The site the photo is taken from  was a   CCC    CS site no facilities.

the site at the bottom by the beach is  NEWGALE

The white blobs top right of the site were two exceptional large teepee's so I doubt size matters but do give them a ring and ask.



21/10/2008 at 11:13am
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Quote: Originally posted by Basilbrush on 19/10/2008

Hello Oldham

I've been looking at your gallery pictures, where's the site by the big beach please? we take kayaks with us & therefore a site by the beach is right at the top of our list. Do you think they'll object to big tents there?



If you consider Ireland, take a look at RenvyleRenvyle
Great coast to kayak.

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