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19/3/2009 at 2:15am
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The two members in question did not change the subject of your post and you laid into them with a vengeance. I commented that it was rude to insult other members like that and you started on me, calling me a troll. I'm not trolling Rex, I didn't change the subject of your thread, you did that when you ripped into two members. If you hadn't insulted other members, I would probably never have been on his thread.


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19/3/2009 at 2:26am
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Hi sue
The post in my opinion was very important many campers over the years have ruined their cotton tents through inexperience, Because the first post on a similar subject got locked because it got out of hand I then posted another post a week later and admin removed it this post was posted again because a member wanted to know if her cabanon tent needed shrinking and was not been told the correct answer.so I posted this post and said please twice for members to let it run, so new members could begin to understand cotton canvas and pigglet and Val just kicked me in the teeth and I thought here we go again.
and spoke my mind and after all nothing outrages or obscene was used.
I really do get much pleasure helping people both here and on TSG but as I love camping I spend more time here but I have to live with far more sarcastic people on here that I find on TSG the world forum.
Rex.
PS Cats lovely animal but should be confined.

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19/3/2009 at 2:36am
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I have a cat but he has to wear a bell on his collar so the birds can hear him coming :)

 



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Quote: Originally posted by rexgrant on 19/3/2009
Hi sue
The post in my opinion was very important many campers over the years have ruined their cotton tents through inexperience, Because the first post on a similar subject got locked because it got out of hand I then posted another post a week later and admin removed it this post was posted again because a member wanted to know if her cabanon tent needed shrinking and was not been told the correct answer.so I posted this post and said please twice for members to let it run, so new members could begin to understand cotton canvas and pigglet and Val just kicked me in the teeth and I thought here we go again.
and spoke my mind and after all nothing outrages or obscene was used.
I really do get much pleasure helping people both here and on TSG but as I love camping I spend more time here but I have to live with far more sarcastic people on here that I find on TSG the world forum.
Rex.
PS Cats lovely animal but should be confined.

I think you mean they had not been given the correct answer in your opinion, Rex?

I think this forum, for me, is about respecting the views of others and giving and receiving advice, which (again, for me) is a way of enhancing the whole camping scenario.

This thread is shocking and in no way reflects the spirit of UKCS, do you reckon?



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19/3/2009 at 6:29am
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Quote: Originally posted by rexgrant on 18/3/2009
Hi again
One more thing to think about when considering canvas shrinkage,Take my Pennine Pullman Fitted with pre treated ten-cate canvas onto a frame with just the right amount of loose to clip up under with the Velcro and rubber bungee rope. If this canvas was not pre shrunk By ten-cate or isabella before manufacture of the cover If it shrunk by 10/15% it would never fit the unit again This is why when you buy a cheap cotton tent that the canvas and tent building is done in the far east beware it may not be preshrunk as I have said many time on this forum.
OK I hope our new members are now clear about cotton canvas tents,Polycotton ??? I would assume the cotton content is pre shrunk/what you reproof with ??? Tentipi have a proofer to use with 50/50 polycotton on their tents, the 40/60 most is made from ???
sorry I have do answers I have tried very hard to find out but have come up with nothing.
Regards
Rex.

The cabin frame on FC's are fitted with notches, so that the pole height can be adjusted to compensate for the natural shrinkage and stretching of canvas. This is the same with frame tent upright poles. This will be less of an issue with the new Isabella canvas which, if it is the same as the caravan awnings, is made of Isacryl not cotton canvas.

Canvas can shrink if it is not properly tensioned whilst drying out. I have personally witnessed this on (my daughter's) Cabanon Pacific, an Aruba, a Conway TT with Cabanon cotton canvas and on a Pennine FC (all the rest were mine, bought second hand and presumably packed away wet by the previous owners). I have had many more camping outfits besides, which have not had the same shrinkage issues because I have always repitched to avoid shrinkage.

Even so, IMHO shrikage is not a major issue, because canvas can easily be stretched back with wetting and tensioning. That is the advice I was given by CGI and also Mitchells (many years ago, when they were Cabanon specialists) and I found it worked fine.

This is my opinion based on my own experience, please feel free to ignore by all means, or disagree if it doesn't meet with your own experience, but please don't be insulting or say it is not accurate, eh?



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19/3/2009 at 7:02am
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Lol...is this thread still going? And all I said was that I wasn't going to join in because I wouldn't be here. Oh dear. I should watch my language.  I'm really sad I won't be able to see the end of this thread before it gets pulled, as it undoubtably will.

I think Rex must have a very sore head this morning.  



19/3/2009 at 8:09am
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Ooops! I think I may have been the one who posted a few days ago with a question about pre shrunk canvass. Plenty of advice and we were very grateful. I must say we took it all on board, especially that of Guadeloupe owners as this is the tent we have. So thanks and don't see the need for another post, especially one littered with abuse and insults as this has been. I really hope Rex wakes up in a better mood and apologises for his rudeness.


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19/3/2009 at 8:10am
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Usual suspects.  Far too much to clean this up, so will close it.

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