I currently have a Gelert Renesse 3 which has been a fabulous tent. We are now planning a camping trip for the first time with a toddler and the Renesse is not going to be big enough.
I have been looking at the Gelert Vario 5, but thought I would ask here if anyone had any other suggestions of a good tent for a family?
Things we would like in the tent
* 2 sleeping areas so that the toddler can be settled earlier in the evening and we don't disturb when we go to bed.
* Ability to stand up in the tent
* Living area big enough to be able to eat under cover if raining and store all the camping gear.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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Thought I would bump this up as others may have some good advice but I can offer the following (untested though!) on the basis that we had practically the same list as you.
After much much research we just bought a Outwell Vermont XL...(we have a ten month old). I was looking at the Hartford XL but on going to a Yeomans tent show was completely sold on the Vermont because:
- the pitching - looks like with practise (see Utube) one person can prepare a lot of the tent for pitching and then the other person help hoist it all up at the end - important as we will be juggling a baby with zero attention span and won't always have other people with on hand to help
- the living space -not only big for toddling and living but layout - but the boy can sleep in a seperate 'room' which we can access easily through the night without coming "out" into the main tent as all the compartments are joined. Also well thought space for which for us will mean storage for buggy, wet shoes, wine drinking, while little one sleeps securely at the back
- quality...reviews on here and other are of a quality, robust and 'trustable' tent- important as I spent a night in fear guarding a cot in a torrential rain in a halfords jobby last summer..slight leakage round the edges and I couldn't relax/sleep at all. (our boy being 10 weeks old at that point)
- the entrance zips up completely for rain, but also opens up into sun canopy
- the middle compartment apparently (saw this on a review - didn't notice when looking round it) zips bottom up - so a toddler could in theory be contained in the centre for a little while e.g if you wanted to keep an eye on him but ensure LO is kept away from cooker etc
- the extras outwell offer in their design seem useful - storage pockets/wardrobe with rail, all the windows and light...carpet!
Down points without testing:
weight/size - this is a big tent
cost - these hold their value even 2nd hand (but I figure this negative may become a pro if we look after it and then decide to sell another year)
Tried really hard to find a tent that did all of the above and couldn't quite get there so we decided cost worth it...camping at beg May so may think differently after!
S
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All the little extras in outwell tents as mentioned above make for pleasnt camping with toddlers. I have camped with my 3 kids for last 5 years in a sunvalley 6, replaced old model with 2008 version this year(now discontinued but a few still available and at good price) The advantage over the vermont in my opinion is the attached front porch which is open so good for safer cooking and as a sun/rain canopy (take your pick, the vermont front porch can be closed off, the sun valley can't. I prefer the openess.)Also with fibre glass poles the sunvalley is a lot lighter and all fits in one bag. Good if space in car is lacking.
Hope this helps
Claud
Can also vouch for the Sun Valley (2008), we have one.
If you like the Gelert, there's a good deal with the Sunncamp equivalent that a forum contributor (Beefysmum) knows about and always mentions ... it's a good price and the sun canopy is thrown in - hope she sees this and helps out!!
------------- Angie ~~
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Thinking back to when ours were toddlers (now 8 & 6), we had an Outwell Hartford and found the separate pods to be a pain. Mainly for nightimes. Let's face it, with a toddler, you'll be listening out for him and they do wake in the night and often a reassuring hand will settle him. Who wants to be scrambling out of their sleeping-bag & pod and into another pod in the nippy air? I would agree with going for a tunnel style, with bedrooms at the back, so you can have him in with you when he's little (and all you have to do is stretch out an arm) and then when he's bigger, he's got his own bedroom, which in the meantime you can use at storage.
------------- Angie ~~
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we started camping when our son was 4 years old. We wanted him in with us as he was a bad sleeper and i wanted to be able to settle him without getting out of bed.We settled on a sunncamp vario 600 . The largest room fits a single and double airbed easily and we use the other room as storage. we have the pre 2007 model which is slightly different to the current version but still has a S.I.G.. I have seen these quite cheap on ebay. new they are about 400 pound i think.
------------- Carole
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Thanks for all the suggestions so far - we are going to our local camping shop today to take a look at a variety to see which we like best.
The Outwell's look interesting so will take a look at those. Have also thought we will look at the Sunncamps, and also the Gelert Horizon (either the 6 or 8) as a reasonable amount of living space would be useful.
Just been to the local camp shop, and no Gelerts or Outwells there to look at ...
But, we looked at some Vango, Coleman and Royal tents. Quite taken by the lightness and airyness of the Royal Bordeaux but will try and find somewhere with the other tents up first so we can take a look at those.
We started with a smallish four man tent, decided that we liked camping, and one of the reasons we went for the Kos 6 was the bedroom arrangement. The main bedroom can either be a four man or two two man rooms - with the aid of a divider curtain. Having the then young kids in with us was a big plus when one of them woke at two in the morning. Even when you have to get out of bed to do a loo trip it is far easier to settle them, and yourself if you, having settled little one, then have to drag yourself to the other side of the tent to get back to bed. Our first tent had the bedrooms at opposite ends, and although the space between them was only very small it was still a pain crawiling across it at two in the morning.
Even now ours are older, and we have the camper, I usually sleep on the bed made from the table/benches with the kids in the bed next to me. It is easier for them just to climb into my bed if needed.
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Quote: Originally posted by AngieGL on 16/4/2009
Thinking back to when ours were toddlers (now 8 & 6), we had an Outwell Hartford and found the separate pods to be a pain. Mainly for nightimes. Let's face it, with a toddler, you'll be listening out for him and they do wake in the night and often a reassuring hand will settle him. Who wants to be scrambling out of their sleeping-bag & pod and into another pod in the nippy air? I would agree with going for a tunnel style, with bedrooms at the back, so you can have him in with you when he's little (and all you have to do is stretch out an arm) and then when he's bigger, he's got his own bedroom, which in the meantime you can use at storage.
Oh i completely disagree! I never sleep well in the same room as A and camping would be no different. I wake with every rustle or snuffle and also when he wakes and sees me or hubby no chilling out coming round time it's playtime from the word go wheras in his own pod or room we get a 15 mins or so grace before attention is demanded. If they really need you in the night you won't sleep thought it if they are in a pod, I promise. Good night sleeps required all round thank you very much LOL.
After having decided that a tunnel with the bedrooms at one end was our preferred layout, we looked at the various options available - we considered the Royal Bordeaux 6 ZG and Vango Amazon 600 that we saw at the camping shop yesterday, and also the Gelert Lokon Vario 6, but in the end bid on and won an Ebay auction for a Royal Avignon 6 Plus (£78!!!).
It appears to be virtually the same as the Bordeaux except it doesn't have the side annex bit. Certainly dimension wise and internal layout it's the same.
It's local so will be picking it up either tomorrow or Monday so will post again once we've had a bash at putting it up in the garden