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Yeah, I can't get mine back into the trolley-type thing - damn annoying.

Anone know where I could buy a suitable sack-style for an Idaho XL?

We have a vermont XL which has a trolley bag. The trick to getting ours in is to roll it twice.

Fold it in half so the ring pins are together
Fold it again
Roll it up
Unroll it
Fold it to the same width as the bag
Roll it
Put it in the bag

I think the problem is trapped wind.

We found the same, we have the Nebraska XL and after putting it up the first time and struggling to pack it away t just got shoved in the back of the car!!  We went camping recently and it took 4 of us to roll it up and we did, eventually, get it in the bag.

I'm definitely going to try the roll in twice tip, think thats the answer, Thank You!

Lou

The chap on the YouTube Yeomans clip rolls the whole thing up from the back to the front. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdLpxDCQkHs&feature=PlayList&p=DDE2A0A7F2FEE990&index=0&playnext=1

We now do this on our Vermy (smaller M version but principle the same) & find it's the best way to pack tent but not air.

Sorry, wrong clip. It's Monty, but the same principle does apply.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHC32yr2rQo&feature=related