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Subject Topic: Kampa Polzeath vs. Outwell
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17/5/2009 at 9:09am
 Location: Derbyshire
 Outfit: Outwell Norfolk Lake
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Sue, we're going to look at a Wolf Lake today so I'll have a look and report back. To be honest, I could not really fault the quality of the materials of the Kampa. I only had a cursory look at the groundsheet, but it looked a lot better than the SIG of my current Khyam tent. As you say, if there were two big bedrooms, it'd be the garage by now.


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17/5/2009 at 9:34am
 Location: The Love Shack
 Outfit:  BearLake 6 and a hot water bottle.
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Thanks Blaze591,

The ZIG of the Outwell polycottons are a lot thicker than the polyester Outwells.
I know our SV6 SIG is nowhere as thick as the ZIG's in the Bearlakes/Wolflakes etc.


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17/5/2009 at 10:22am
 Location: Somerset
 Outfit: Raclet Astor 300 & something new
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Hi,

Agree with SVsue, the outwell polycottons have a PVC zig not the tarpulin type gs that the polyester tents have.

If you really cant get to grips with the bear lake canopy, there is always the option to customise it so you have a side canopy that hangs under the top, and clips onto the poles...

I did this with my indiana 8 when we had the same canopy issue, t worked a treat, and the benefit was that I could raise it when sunny and drop it when rainy....

Photo-0092.jpg picture by mum2billandted

Being quite good with a sewing machine I managed to attach it under the top of the canopy, but with a few clips and ties in the right place, you could create something that would work the same,  A really good marine canvas supplier would be able to provide some decent cotton to use (kayospruce is one I've found)

I've also suggested this to outwell so hopefully they will tke noticec and provide this option at some stage soon....If they just produce a full length fabric canopy that can be used with existing poles and zips, but able to clip to polesto keep in place I'm sure that people would buy at the right price...

Hope they do it!!

Emma x



18/5/2009 at 7:59pm
 Location: Derbyshire
 Outfit: Outwell Norfolk Lake
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Well, had a look at a WL7. On the subject of groundsheets I would say that the ZIG on the outwells is of better quality than the SIG on the Kampa tents. However, the WL7 is not the tent for us. On the pro side, lots of living space, but on the downside, no separate porch and smallish bedrooms.

So, after a trek today, we went to see a Norfolk Lake. Doesn't seem to be a particularly "trendy" Outwell tent, very few people seem to stock them, but for us it's perfect. Separate "porch" that we can sit and cook in, but zip up if the weather is crap. Really outstanding quality, two rear bedrooms are 180 x 225 so slightly bigger than the WL7 or the Polzeath. So it's ordered, along with the footprint and the carpet. Most excited we are, can't wait for it to arrive. Now, if only the weather was forecast to be better this weekend!


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19/5/2009 at 8:33am
 Location: The Love Shack
 Outfit:  BearLake 6 and a hot water bottle.
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Hi Blaze591,

>>>Norfolk Lake<<<< Thats a great tent,very similar to our SV6 in design,only longer.
That bigger porch area does make a big difference.
Let us know how you get on when it arrives.......

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19/5/2009 at 8:46am
 Location: Essex
 Outfit: Kampa Tenby 10 & Frinton 4 Canopy
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Hi blaze591 - well done, the Norfolk Lake is an excellent tent. I would recommend you hunting down and purchasing the Outwell Universal Side canopy to put on the front. It will make those wet days very bearable.

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19/5/2009 at 8:56am
 Location: Nottinghamshire
 Outfit: Coleman Evolva
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Or Lakeable!!!

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Be seeing you!!

Numbersix


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20/5/2009 at 4:53pm
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Hi

I recently saw the new Royal Winnipeg 6 tent up and thought it was really nice. It is a similar layout to their Bordeaux 6 but in polycotton and has the side porch as well as front canopy with removal windbreak sides and a zip out groundsheet. It is a coffee cream colour and I was very impressed. I just wish they did it in a 4 berth as well because its too big for our needs. Unfortunately its also too new to have any reviews. Prices seems to range from £899 down to £699 at Intertent.



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20/5/2009 at 5:09pm
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Quote: Originally posted by mumshadenough on 17/5/2009

Hi,

Agree with SVsue, the outwell polycottons have a PVC zig not the tarpulin type gs that the polyester tents have.

If you really cant get to grips with the bear lake canopy, there is always the option to customise it so you have a side canopy that hangs under the top, and clips onto the poles...

I did this with my indiana 8 when we had the same canopy issue, t worked a treat, and the benefit was that I could raise it when sunny and drop it when rainy....

Photo-0092.jpg picture by mum2billandted

Being quite good with a sewing machine I managed to attach it under the top of the canopy, but with a few clips and ties in the right place, you could create something that would work the same,  A really good marine canvas supplier would be able to provide some decent cotton to use (kayospruce is one I've found)

I've also suggested this to outwell so hopefully they will tke noticec and provide this option at some stage soon....If they just produce a full length fabric canopy that can be used with existing poles and zips, but able to clip to polesto keep in place I'm sure that people would buy at the right price...

Hope they do it!!

Emma x


Hi Emma

Your canopy sides look great. This is something I want to do with my tent but having trouble deciding what fabric I need to buy. Our tent is made from 185T Ripstop polyester. What did you use? I want to make it detachable like the new Royal tent canopy sides are. They clip onto the poles with plastic rings. I am sure I could do something similar with ours. I have looked at the website link you provided but still not sure which would be best fabric? I was thinking of buying another Royal windbreak which matches our tent and is about the right width and trying to customise this. Do you think that would work??



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20/5/2009 at 11:02pm
 Location: Somerset
 Outfit: Raclet Astor 300 & something new
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Using another windreak would be ideal, as it would match and you can pretty much guarantee it's a similar waterproof...You might need to use 2 panels for each side of the canopy as I'm not sure that the height of a windbreak is enough to cover the gap.

I attached the sides with ties, simply sew them onto the sides of the made up canopy and they tie onto the poles, they do leave a small gap, but the cover is so much better than the open sides.

Regarding the top part of the canopy, I did sew mine all the way over, however if you can create some ties on the inside under the canopy, you can attach it so that it hangs under the overhang. (if that makes sense?!?!?!)

Whatever you end up doing, i'm sure it will be an improvement in the canopy you have at the moment.

Have fun,

Emma



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20/5/2009 at 11:19pm
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Quote: Originally posted by mumshadenough on 20/5/2009

Using another windreak would be ideal, as it would match and you can pretty much guarantee it's a similar waterproof...You might need to use 2 panels for each side of the canopy as I'm not sure that the height of a windbreak is enough to cover the gap.

I attached the sides with ties, simply sew them onto the sides of the made up canopy and they tie onto the poles, they do leave a small gap, but the cover is so much better than the open sides.

Regarding the top part of the canopy, I did sew mine all the way over, however if you can create some ties on the inside under the canopy, you can attach it so that it hangs under the overhang. (if that makes sense?!?!?!)

Whatever you end up doing, i'm sure it will be an improvement in the canopy you have at the moment.

Have fun,

Emma


Hi Emma

Thought I could use these to attach the sides to the canopy so I could remove them in the nice weather (if we get any this year!!!) and then clip to the poles as you suggested. We are going away on Sunday so I will measure up and see if a windbreak would work. Seems about the right dimensions. I have also found an online shop which sells tent fabric so could buy it by the meter if I need to. They also sell the window fabric to make the sides a bit lighter. Thanks for all your advice



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21/5/2009 at 8:04pm
 Location: Somerset
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Clingons would work but I guess you might still get a small gap unless you can clingon to the underside of the canopy.

Good luck, You will find it makes so much of a difference!!

Emma




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