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Subject Topic: Steel vs Fibreglass construction
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13/5/2009 at 8:42pm
 Location: Nottinghamshire
 Outfit: Coleman Evolva
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Just come across Outdoor Revolution Scenic 5.0 i at Somerset Camping for £199.99. And the reviews on here suggest it might bear consideration.

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13/5/2009 at 8:42pm
 Location: Bristol
 Outfit: Diablo 600. In market for cotton tent
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For what it's worth, I've ruled out fibreglass poles in my search for my next tent. The reason is not only for stability/construction. I want a polycotton, and noticed on a windy day at a display that some fibreglass poles make a really loud creaky noise against polycotton.

Woah! Just googled the Biscaya and nearly choked on my tiramisu when I saw the price!!


13/5/2009 at 8:45pm
 Location: Nottinghamshire
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You have a spare kidney?

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13/5/2009 at 9:32pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Karsten 220 De Waard Visdief+Kuifuil
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Quote: Originally posted by BlueC on 13/5/2009
Thanks for all your input here folks - it's interesting to hear your thoughts on this. Anyone wishing to defend fibreglass construction? Any more in the "steel" camp?

Right now I'm seriously leaning away from fibreglass construction because I fear I'd only do the same as mrneillees and end up being dissatisfied and flogging it after a couple of uses.

Hartley Hare, that Cabanon Biscaya 440 looks like one serious tent! Bit outside my price-range though :)

Colorado, Carolina and Minnesota are front runners for me now.

Hi BlueC

When you mention the Colorado do you mean the Outwell or the Vango?

If it's the Outwell then, although it has steel poles, personally I don't think it performs very well in the wind. It's not too bad if you're backside into the wind but any kind of sidewind and there is a lot of strain on the guys as the fibreglass roof poles allow the side to be pushed over when they flex. The design of it is such that it is in no way self supporting relying totally on guys.

A couple of years ago all four steel poles down one side bent in the same place, sheared and snapped in a bad storm. Admittedly it was extreme weather and 80% of the tents on site were flattened in the space of ten minutes but goes to show...even steel poles will bend/snap given the right conditions/poor design.

So I wouldn't discount fibreglass no. Personally I would go for a canvas or polycotton as these invariably do better in bad weather.

After that storm I decided to get a tent the same shape / material as the few that were left standing....hence the tent in my profile pic. I did however bother to get replacement poles for the colorado... as a fairweather tent it gives me loads of space for long trips and I can put it up on my own.

If it's not the Outwell Colorado please ignore the above!



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13/5/2009 at 10:17pm
 Location: Glossop - Gateway to the Dark Peak
 Outfit: KAMPA Frinton 5 Outwell Nevada S
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When fibreglass poles are used in geodesic tents then they are perhaps the most stable available. But these style of tents are expensive and I've personally only seen one that could be considered a family tent with standing room, etc.

I looked very carefully at the Outdoor revolution Scenic 5.0i before coming down on the side of the Minny. Its double skin means good insulation and lack of condensation. However the living space is quite poor because some of it is sacrificed to create a porch with bathtub groundsheet. This does have some advantages (place to store wet stuff, less need to buy a porch/extension for example) but on a persistantly-raining day or evening I'd like more space to live in.


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13/5/2009 at 10:44pm
 Location: Nottinghamshire
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I think this a classic head versus heart versus wallet situation !! Now is the time to sit down with a bottle or two of Blue Nun ( not the porn star ) and search your camping soul .

Good luck!!



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13/5/2009 at 11:09pm
 Location: Wirral
 Outfit: Vaude Mk II and another tent
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Hey splendidisolation - thanks for the info. Indeed I did mean the outwell but i then noticed it doesn't have a SIG and that is kind of a requirement 'cos I hate draughts and being bitten by bugs so I discounted it now.

I'm gonna visit a few places this weekend and search out some more tents. Increasingly I'm feeling that the Minnesota 4 is the way to go... the only poor thing is that useless "rain-safe" door on the side but since we could buy the front extension too it's less of an issue. Shame it's over budget but as numbersix says this is a head versus heart versus wallet conundrum!!


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