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Thanks Sue, I get the difference now - looking at the Carolina i can see the sewn in-ness of it. That really helps - as i can see now our current tent is not sewn in, and we're not too drafty - so i think the Arizona will be good for us .

Thanks again!

I've  seen many outwells on many sites and they always look fab, as someone who has a large tent just bear in mind that on a lovely day all tents are great to put up BUT on those days that it is pouring down and windy-which seems to be most of the time- they can be a nightmare. I thought nearly all the outwells had built in ground sheet? Anyway sorry for the babble just have lots of goes at putting it up before you go for away for real as its a bit like driving its confusing until you get the hang of it.