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05/6/2009 at 8:46pm
 Location: pyle bridgend
 Outfit: Vango Samara 600
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Hi guys firstly i would like to say what an excellent site this is been very impressed with the information on it .

Right as i said in my subject myself and my family 2 adults 3 children (10,7,3) have never been camping before and was looking for some advice off you kind folk !!!

Firstly we have a budget of about £200 for our first tent and was looking at the vango orchy 600 good choice or not ??

What fridge to go for ??

What you would recommend to cook on ??

Where as we are from South Wales a campsite to visit locally for our maiden voyage ??

I know i am asking alot but as i said earlier we have never been and need all the advice we can get thanks



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05/6/2009 at 9:08pm
 Location: Nottinghamshire
 Outfit: Coleman Evolva
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Welcome to the forum !!!

Lots of questions. I love it when people use the word  "around " when refering to budget .I going to give you one tent to look at and if you search for it by name  ,look at the thread . Coleman Mackenzie X6 , which is still available for £219.99 at Amazon . The Orchy is another fine tent , but we need to throw some ideas ideas around so that we get that meets your needs. How would you like to sleep the children ? In two bedrooms? Bedroom each? Youngest in with you ? This is important as Within your budget , all these options can be accomodated. This is the basis which appears to be important to get right . Some tents have flexible bedroom spaces, with removeable dividers.

On the subject of fridges , I do not have an EHU, so I will that to those who use such items. As for , cooking, it depends on what type of cooking you will would like to do . Again, I would be tempted to address this and the refrigerator as separate posts on the equipment section, otherwise , this will become a bit confusing.



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05/6/2009 at 9:18pm
 Location: pyle bridgend
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Thanks we are looking at the children slleping together in 1 room and us in another but at their and of the tent so the living space is to the front if that makes sense


05/6/2009 at 9:26pm
 Location: Midlands
 Outfit: Happy Owner of a De Wit Orlando
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Get a cheap Halfords/Argos/Millets starter pack with mats and bags and use it for a season or two until it collapses. If your family enjoy camping then buy the best tent you can afford.


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05/6/2009 at 9:29pm
 Location: Nottinghamshire
 Outfit: Coleman Evolva
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No absolutely clear. Just been posting a recommendation from someomes shortlist.Have a look at the Vango Breckenridge 400.The larger bedroom is 190cm , which is big enough for three ready beds. It is a sturdy frame tent and, this often gives reassurance for first timers , plus a5000HH rating  ,should mean , baring faults, this would withstsand the elements.

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05/6/2009 at 9:36pm
 Location: Nottinghamshire
 Outfit: Coleman Evolva
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Sorry, the price is £169.99 from Somerset Camping plus delivery. Tent packages , with respect have a pricepoint for a reason, to satisfy impulse campers. If you buy something reasonable, you will get fair return when coming to sell on .

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05/6/2009 at 9:43pm
 Location: Birmingham
 Outfit: None Entered
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i had the argos 6 man starter kit for our first camping trip and it was alright for 2 adults and 3 children and it was alright for us we had enough space for everything the only complaint i have about the tent is that there aint enough head room, but ive had 3 camping trips out of it. But now im taking more stuff i want a bigger tent


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05/6/2009 at 9:59pm
 Location: Sheffield
 Outfit: Outwell Oakland XL
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Welcome! Last summer was my first time and now totally hooked! We started by camping very locally (so we could be home within the hour if it all went wrong!). Could you borrow a nice tent from someone? Then if you have a great time (which I think you will) you can shop around for the right tent for you. On the other hand its great fun shopping for tents so just buy one! Try to get to a tent show if you can where you can actually see them up against each other and walk around them.

We dont yet have a fridge and get by happily on coolbox so I would be tempted to leave that until you know you like it. Most sites freeze your icepacks for you so you can keep it cold if you take a few. Then you dont have to get the electric hook up kit (£50-100) which you can manage without for a weekend. We only just bought ours. Would suggest one or two of the suitcase stoves ( £9.99 each) and only a few quid for gas bottles. Small to pack and cook well. Otherwise you are needing to buy a gas bottle which will set you back- half decent stove + bottle around £100.

Its a trade off as if you buy lots of cool kit it will be easier and more like home, but its a bigger risk and puts a lot of pressure on you to enjoy it if you have spent £500 before leaving the house!

 

 



05/6/2009 at 10:06pm
 Location: Birmingham
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i use a stella cool cube fridge which i got of ebay for around £30



05/6/2009 at 10:08pm
 Location: Surrey
 Outfit: Outwell SunValley6 -Quechua 4.2 -VWEos
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I'm not going to suggest a tent, but having a young family too I'll just give you a few pointers about what was important for us when we bought a tent:

1. Sewn in groundsheet (that is the living area and the bedrooms, the whole thing sealed so no bugs). Also flyscreens on doors but that's sometimes more difficult to get.

2. Stand up height in the living area, and possibly in the bedrooms too. Some tents are 220 high which is great, others are only 180 to 190 ( or less) in the living area which leaves taller people stooping.

3. The tent material, At your budget you're only going to get a polyester tent (which is fine) but then you have to look at the hydrostatic head (HH) rating. A cheap tent in Argos or Halfords will be 2000HH, the most expensive ones will be 5000HH (HH is the water pressure the material can withstand). Actually 3000HH is enough, but getting a cheap 2000HH is going to leave you wanting a new tent this time next year.

4. Tent layout, door positions, size of windows. You sound like you've decided on the tunnel tent design of bedrooms at the back, living room at front.

5. Packed tent size and weight. If you opt for steel poles (like the Outwell Montana) it is definately more sturdy in windy weather but it takes up more space inthe car, whereas a tent which uses fiberglass poles may flex a bit more in the wind but the pack size is much smaller.

6. Pitch size. Most camp site are fine with tents that are 6 meters width. Any more than that, for example the pod style tents, you might run into problems getting a space or avoiding extra fees.

What we did is pick a few manufacturers (suggest Outwell, Gelert and one other), get their brochures and learn about their range of tents, as to why they might design tents in different ways, and what the different features are. There isn't a perfect tent otherwise there would only be one!

For £200 you'll get something decent enough. Good luck with your search. 

Finally, despite all your internet research, you can't beat seeing the tents up in person. Find the biggest outdoor display of tents you can and go and visit it in both wet windy weather and then on a hot sunny day.

Good luck!



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06/6/2009 at 12:19am
 Location: swansea
 Outfit: Avondale corfu sunvalley 8
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The vango orchy would be a bit of a squeeze for 5 of you , as the bedrooms are only big enough to take a double airbed in each one. It doesnt come with a porch either,(although you can buy one at extra cost) something that is very useful, for dumping wet gear, sitting in shade or just out of the rain.

The coleman matrix, although it doesn't have side by side bedrooms has a decent size living room with extended porch and larger bedrooms. Its top quality and can be bought for £175 , excellent price at


here charlies direct

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06/6/2009 at 10:40am
 Location: pyle bridgend
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Some excellent advice thanks people just have to bite the bullet now and flash the cash thanks again will let you all know what we decide on !!!



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