As my name suggests I cam new to the forum AND new to camping. We bought a new Wynnter eagle tent and have had to cut short our second ever trip due to lots of leaks. It was like a sieve last night ! First the window seams leaked, then the doors. Next the ceiling seams, until the middle of the night when the main body of the ceiling started to let in water which dripped through the bedroom and soaked our beddding.
We had to mop up continually with towels and use buckets and bowls to collect the drips.
Immediately on our return I called the vendor to be told that it is perfectly normal for all new tents to leak and actually tents only become waterproof once you've taken them on a few trips. I was told to persevere if I wanted the tent to become more waterproof as the seams and stitching needs time to 'bed in'.
Now to me, this sounds like rubbish. If it leaks it leaks. I can't see that I convince my partner and small children to endure another potentially wet trip this summer just to see if the tent has become waterproof ! Especially after we have had to abandon our family holiday.
Thoughts ?
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Sounds like BS to me. My gf and I got a new tent last year and it was waterproof from the first use. Under the Sale of Goods act, any item sold must be fit for purpose. A leaky tent is not fit for purpose!
I agree , think they are trying to pull the wool over your eyes. We have had several tents not one of them has leaked. Take it back and ask for a replacement or a refund don't let it put you off camping though!
Only canvas tents need a good soaking to get completely waterproof, as the natural fibres swell up when wet. A nylon tent should be 100% waterproof from day one. However, a nylon tent will also suffer from condensation - drips and maybe even puddles will be inevitable as moisture cannot escape outwards through the 100% impermeable fabric...
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I agree with the above, the tent is not fit for the purpose. Some manufacturers try to get out of their responsibilities by giving away a tube of seam sealer with the tent, knowing that once you have applied it they can blame you for any leaks.
Take the tent back and demand an acceptable replacement or a refund.
Was the vendor....a reputable tent/outdoor retailer / something you bought off ebay/or something else.
Was the tent new when purchased,if it was a would demand a full refund as the advice they gave you was a load of codswallop.
You do get the odd seam leaking on new tents,but usually nothing a bit of seam sealer can't cure.
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If your tent has a Hydrostatic Head of 1500mm or more and is seam sealed then it should not leak - anything less than 1500mm then it is almost certain it will leak.
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Polyester tents do not need time to bed in...
Re waterproofing, on Friday we had monsoon weather in cambridgeshire and I doubt any tent would stand up to this, new or old.
Tents are waterproof to a level (1500mm, 2000mm 3000mm etc etc) and the sort of rain we had was just to much for most tents.
Having said all this a few drops coming in through zips and windows vents etc is something I think we can all understand but in normal summer weather/rain etc you should expect the fabric and seams to cope ok.
Newtoocamping - it sounds like you have a problem but I would ask when was this, was it on Friday when some of the country was like the rainy season in the far east....
Regards
G Cross
Retailer.
they are trying to fob you off mate our diablo is fantstic no drips we have Sewn in ground sheets so no drafts or leaks its great had it for 4 years now never let us down.
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The sole purpose of a tent is to separate you on the inside from the weather on the outside. Otherwise we wouldn't bother with tents at all and we'd all just sleep in a field on a blow-up mattress!
Only cotton/polycotton tents need "weathering" - a plastic tent should be fully waterproofed when purchased and will not get any better then more you use it - they are pulling your chain and you should insist on a refund/exchange as it is not fit for purpose.
Know your rights, read about Sale of Goods Act, and quote to them that it was sold with "inherent faults" that made it "not fit for purpose".
Remember though, never touch a wet tent on the inside as it WILL leak where you touched it!
A manmade fabric tent does NOT "bed in". On a new cotton tent the fibres swell in the damp and seal off the little holes left by stitching so you do need to wet a new cotton tent to make it sealed against the rain and this is usually referred to as "weathering" the tent.
However, the fibres of a manmade tent do not swell when wet so the only way to seal the stitch holes is for a hot sealed clear tape to go over the seams. Tents are usually therefore desribed as habing fully sealed seams. Occasionally the seal on the seam have a small imperfection so you may get the odd drip coming through, and that is where a blob of seam sealant is needed. Also as others have pointed out, manmade fabric is not breathable so contensation builds up on the inside and will drip and run.
But the extent of leakage you are describing ans where you found it suggests that this is NOT condensation and that the tent is not fit for purpose. So you need to get asertive with the vendor (armed with your camping knowledge off here!) and demand your money back as it is your right to do so under the legislation others have referred to.