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Topic: A weekender tent with Monty Standards!
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13/2/2010 at 9:11pm
Location: None Entered Outfit: Loads!
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Hello Everyone!
I am after some help as always - We currenlty have a Montana 6 and have used this wonderful tent for 4 years now (for 2 adults and 2 kids) We have decided that although we adore out Monty, we want to buy a smaller, tunnel type tent that isn't as bulky to pack for short weekend and has a slightly smaller living area than our huge Monty.
- Would consider a sleeping pod that isn't at full standing height (as with the Monty) .
- We must have Steel poles ( rather than the polycarbon/ bendy one!) I feel much safer with these!
- Need a model that we can buy the front extension (like the Monty has)
Any ideas peeps?
thakns in advance as always! 
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13/2/2010 at 9:17pm
Location: Hull East Yorkshire Outfit: Outwell Vango Relum & Cabanon!!
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HiGear Corado 4????
------------- Eliza D
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13/2/2010 at 9:22pm
Location: A quiet pitch with a lovely view Outfit: Cabanon Noumea
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Hi. What is it you want to achieve from this other tent: smaller packsize, quicker to set up ...?
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13/2/2010 at 9:25pm
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Yes Merry, smaller packsize AND smaller living area (the Monty living area is massive whcih is great for a 2 weeker in France, but greedy for a weekend - lol!)
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13/2/2010 at 9:31pm
Location: Cumbria (Upper Eden Valley) Outfit: Cabanons SunValley Michigan Khyam ABI
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Do you have a budget Wenpip?
------------- Keely :-))
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13/2/2010 at 9:38pm
Location: A quiet pitch with a lovely view Outfit: Cabanon Noumea
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Vango Artemis 600?
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13/2/2010 at 10:47pm
Location: Sunny south coast Outfit: Columbia 600 Bude 4
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Have a look at the Kampa Frinton 4 - 4000HH, extra thick/quality flysheet, bug meshes, sleeptite inners, steel poles, shielded entrance, SIG etc. The Kampa range is getting a lot of interest this year as they are really going for quality.
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Happy shopping!
(We are going for the smaller Bude 4 as a two night tent, but there are only 3 of us and we can put the bags in the inner with the single bed and easily clear that inner as a play area for our toddler if the weather is bad). Its compact, which is what we want but sufficient room to eat and sit in if its wet. Its actually bigger than our old ridge tent... The Frinton has an extra metre in living space relative to the Bude 4 so is a nice size for 4!
Helen
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15/2/2010 at 3:36pm
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thanks all so much for the ideas.. we now have a good shortlist!!
Merry we went to see the Artemis yesterday at go outdoors and we're impressed also the price is under £200 too! The Finton looks great too , Speedcamp, but a bit out of the price range i'm afraid as we need to buy the extension too.. Now i am just trying to find the Artemis as cheap as possible as go outdoors have them at £175 and then £60 for the extension... why cant I win the lottery?!!!
thanks as always peeps!
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15/2/2010 at 4:06pm
Location: Sunny south coast Outfit: Columbia 600 Bude 4
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Camperlands currently have the Artemis 400 (2009) version in stock for £169.99 plus a further 10% off until the end of Feb.
Just a note - check your beds. The back of the tent is 245cm at its widest, which means that the inner is probably something like 225cm at its narrowest (allowing 10cm gap either side between the fly and inner tent) and making arround 110cm max for each half. Our Coleman comfort double wouldn't fit, nor two singles in the other half. If you use mats you may be OK - but worth checking first. Vango have the same narrowing inner issue in a number of their tents...

If you can find an affordable Vango Columbia 400 that has a true 140cm for each inner, steel poles, 5000HH - http://www.tents4less.co.uk/vango-columbia-400.html £239 (but one went for £174 on ebay recently).
Helen
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15/2/2010 at 4:15pm
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thanks Helen, 
I guess I need to measure our thermarests as we have 2 single ones with a special kit to make a double and then the kids have a single mat each too... grrrr - OH said they would fit... if you want somethign done......!
Thanks helen for advice.. will let you know and then update the thread
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15/2/2010 at 7:45pm
Location: A quiet pitch with a lovely view Outfit: Cabanon Noumea
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Hi, if you've got the extra few £s then it might be worth looking at the Artemis 500 or 600. Less squashed in teh bedroom for the four of you and I would have thought that the difference in pack size and erection time would be barely noticeable.
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15/2/2010 at 10:48pm
Location: Fife Outfit: Vango Monte Verde 900 & Orchy 600
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Hi
What about the Vango Orchy 600 - thats what we use for weekends and shorter breaks - very similar but on a smaller scale.
Fiona
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15/2/2010 at 10:55pm
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we deffo want steel frames and Orchy has fibreglass - but thanks for the suggestion fi.. my sis has this and its perfect for them but we go in all weathers (and early / late season) so want a good old weather proof steel frame really.
sxis, We secretly really want the *Minny* as its like a miny Monty really but the price put us off...... want to spend under £200 really.. plus need to buy an extention too......
Artemis is the front runner I think.. might take my thermarests to Go outdoors and see if they fit in the display model!! 
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16/2/2010 at 1:01am
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Wenpip try Taunton leisure they have the minny at £219.99 its worth it!
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24/2/2010 at 12:06am
Location: Hitchin Herts Outfit: Outwell Montana 6
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Ooooh that minny's tempting.
We've also got a monty and it's lovely, but it would be nice to have something not quite so mahoosive for weekends.
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