I purchased a pretty old Cabanon tent (cotton outer fabric)last year and I am over the moon with it, except it has two patches of the outer fabric which seem to be saturated during wet weather, it looks like there are huge grease stains around these patches.
I have tried proofing them with spray. It didn't work. According to my local camping caravan shop, I now have two choices: proof the whole tent with paint on liquid proofing or sew a patch of plastic awning type window material onto the said areas. I am willing to do both but before I spend nearly as much as the cost of the tent, does anyone have any ideas on which would be my best bet. Please be serious as I am now distraught that my "always wanted" cabanon tent is getting us wet. Is there an answer?
kind regards
cornishcamper41
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after a while yes, the area gradually becomes saturated and then starts dripping onto inner bedroom area. you can clearly see a big wet patch from inside and out.
I used Graingers Tent Cleaner on our previously ill treated Cabanon when we first bought it, then used Fabsil to reproof it. There were numerous grease splashes around the kitchen area. This did the trick. However, if there are two big patches of grease on yours, you could maybe try cleaning those areas with Fairy Liquid, and then reproof.
This is only my suggestion, it may not be the right thing to do, so wait until other canvas tent owners comment on it first.
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I'd agree with Jean, there is absolutely no point just putting reproofer on a tent that is already grubby, think about it, all you are doing is sealing the dirt and grime in.
I'd pitch it somewhere you can leave it for a few days (I wouldn't chose to do it this time of year), clean it with Graingers or with good old fashioned Grannies Soap flakes (Tesco), or white vinegar diluted in water. I'd clean it, let it dry and then clean it again.
I don't see any reason why you now HAVE to treat the whole tent as the shop suggests. Personally I would probably treat the whole panels that the stains are in to avoid getting too much of a patchwork effect. This does mean that you will end up with panels that are a different colour and you might therefore want to do the whole thing but that would be a matter of choice and I'm not sure I could be bothered!
Obviously make sure that the reproofer you use is for cotton and not for man made fabrics.
thanks for your helpful comments....I do remember using the Graingers spray....I did clean with specialist cotton awning cleaner (although I suspect this was nothing more that fairy type stuff) I allowed it to dry and then applied the spray. I must admit it was done in a rush whilst on holiday and although the weather was dry, it possibly wasn't given long enough.
I have look at the labels on the tent but no sign of a model i'm afraid. It is definitely a cotton outer.
You can clean all the tent with Graingers and it wont hurt.Dirt in the fabric helps water seep through so cleaning it will help.
regarding the grease patches if you are going to clean it with any kind of detergent only do the patches and do untill you are satified, then reproof the patches.
Look for tent clean in a little bottle, you dilute it.
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oops, sorry, forgot to come back and look for your reply.
Agree with the others - i wouldn't use washing up liquid though but would us the soap flakes like piglet suggested.
Milton or similar would be good to treat just the patches too.
Then let it dry and reproof then patches you have cleaned ......... if it need reproofing.
NOT detergent ie Fairy Liquid. You'll never get detergent residue out the canvas and it will leak forever. Use either a soap based tent cleaner like Graingers or pure soap and water. Malke sure you do both sides and try blotting with old towels too (one of you on each side with pads of towels, trying to blot out whatever it is. You'll also need to rinse really well no matter what you use...and by that I mean hosepipe and rinse six or eight times, then a bit more. Repeat the cleaning and rinsing if necessary. Allow to dry then use paint on Fabsil or Thompson's Water Seal, two or three thin coats, allowing each to totally dry before the next one.
If there's the slightest trace of grease or soap residue left in the canvas the proofer won't take properly, btw, so good washing and rinsing is vital.
If the above doesn't work you can either get the panel(s) replaced or patched. There's no real point in getting the whole tent reproofed though unless it's leaking there too.
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Quote: Originally posted by Valk_scot on 06/3/2010
NOT detergent ie Fairy Liquid. You'll never get detergent residue out the canvas and it will leak forever. Use either a soap based tent cleaner like Graingers or pure soap and water. Malke sure you do both sides and try blotting with old towels too (one of you on each side with pads of towels, trying to blot out whatever it is. You'll also need to rinse really well no matter what you use...and by that I mean hosepipe and rinse six or eight times, then a bit more. Repeat the cleaning and rinsing if necessary. Allow to dry then use paint on Fabsil or Thompson's Water Seal, two or three thin coats, allowing each to totally dry before the next one.
If there's the slightest trace of grease or soap residue left in the canvas the proofer won't take properly, btw, so good washing and rinsing is vital.
If the above doesn't work you can either get the panel(s) replaced or patched. There's no real point in getting the whole tent reproofed though unless it's leaking there too.
Quote: Originally posted by cornishcamper41 on 06/3/2010
thanks val....any idea how where i can get the replacement or patch. can it be a diy job.
DIY? It depends. You can get decent canvas by the metre and sew it in yourself but you'd need a heavyweight sewing machine (old treadle is ideal here!!), good sewing skills and most importantly you need to be able to actually reach the area needing patching. If it's near an edge or by a doorway, good. Roof? Forget it. I can do all of the above and even have access to an industrial long arm sewing machine but even I wouldn't try to patch a roof or upper side panel.
Tent Valeting Services can replace or repair anything, or can supply canvas. Or ask at your local camping shop for a local tent repair specialist or sailmaker. It's a perfectly acceptable thing for a canvas tent to need repairs now and again so the knowledge is out there.
Final tips. If budget is paramount, find another old canvas tent and use that for patching materials. Or if the patches required are small, is your pole bag perhaps made of offcuts of the same canvas? (It's done...that's what I used to patch my Conway TT.) If you do use new canvas. soak it well in cold water (no soap) and dry it out a couple of times to weather it and take out shrinkage before patching. Use strong sailmakers cotton or cotton/polyester thread and a denim needle on your machine. After patching, soak the whole thing down again with plain water and alow to dry. It shouldn't need Fabsil if you've used the right materials but carry a can just in case.
Try cleaning and reproofing the patches again first though, as per above. It's a darn sight easier to clean a tent than patch it.
I have a 5 berth cabanon that has been seriously mistreated in a former life, and the cotton canvas seems to be heavier than that on my Athena. When it got wet at Halloween is looked like it had been run over with greasy tyre marks on two of the panels.
It dried out and the marks disappeared.
The canvas was absolutely saturated, esp. the dirty marks in the downpours we had that weekend, we reproofed it on site and it just about held out the weekend.
My plan is to wait for a hot weekend and thoroughly clean it, let it dry completely and then reproof it.
I completely lost faith in it that weekend so am not going to be happy using it without trying.....so figure I have nothing to lose.
Mine is a 5 berth vis a vis.....never seen another.....its a Protecta 5