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11/3/2010 at 10:05pm
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Hello,

I'm thinking about buying this tent, but I'm unsure if it would be big enough for our family (2 adults, 3 children (10, 7 and 5 yrs old) )? The width of the bedroom area is only 300 so think it might be a bit of a squeeze. I don't know how they think 6 can fit in there!

We'd really only use it for weekends, not fortnight holidays, so perhaps it would be ok. What are people's experiences with this tent? Also, is it really as quick and easy to pitch as they say (have had many an argument with the oh when battling to put up tents in the past!)?

Many thanks!


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11/3/2010 at 10:25pm
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For five of you, even if three of them are children, I would consider something else. For some reason or other VANGO have made "600" (ie 6-berth) a remarkably optimistic claim on the Orchy (my 4-berth Outwell Minnesota 4 is wider!!!!).
Even their own Icarus 500 is wider!!!
I don't understand what they are playing at.


11/3/2010 at 10:32pm
 Location: Glossop - Gateway to the Dark Peak
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Regarding the rest of your enquiry, I suspect that the alterations they have made with this year's Orchy will make it both more stable and easier to pitch.

The chief difficulty is that the main poles are so long and floppy that you really need someone tall inside the tent to hold the living area up while others position and peg.

I believe that you would also really need to budget for the canopy or the new extension, otherwise getting in and out when it's raining will be very difficult without getting the living area wet.

It's not a bad tent and in some respects it is a good tent. But compared with Outwells, which tend to have lots of windows, it may feel a little claustrophobic if you have to remain inside due to rain.

Consider the Outwell Oakland XL. Only £50 or so more expensive, much more sturdy and plenty of windows. But again you would need to consider the extension.


11/3/2010 at 11:09pm
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My girlfriend and i bought the 2009 model last summer from Go Outdoors. Even though i'd never been in a tent we managed to pitch it in half an hour on our first attempt. It's so easy. We never found the rain a problem unless we used the big front door. It's also got a very cosy feeling about it too. I will admit thouh, it's never going to be comfortable for 6 people. 4 people max with all your gear or all 5 of you if you can keep everything to a minimum.

Hopefully we're going to take ours to North Wales this summer. i can't wait!



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12/3/2010 at 10:41am
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I had an Orchy 600 and we have just sold it. there are 4 of us and its just got way to small. We had the large sun canopy and we ended up sleeping in the living area and the kids split the bedroom pod.

It is a great tent though, we loved it and its pained me to sell it.



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12/3/2010 at 10:45am
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Quote: Originally posted by Former Scout on 11/3/2010


The chief difficulty is that the main poles are so long and floppy that you really need someone tall inside the tent to hold the living area up while others position and peg.



I am an average 5`5" female and have pitched this tent alone with no problems on many occasions. Even when theres two of us we have never needed anyone to hold the living area up, when both the long poles are in the ring and pin position the living area dome will stand unsupported.......unless its really blowing a gale.

The poles in the 600 have always been thicker and better quality than the 400 / 500



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12/3/2010 at 11:24am
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No problems pitching ours, nor with light inside. But definitely look elsewhere for your family. For us, it's a great 2 man (occasional 3) tent, not 5.


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12/3/2010 at 12:08pm
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Well I would agree with the scout as this aint no six man tent although I think you will get away with 2 adults and 3 children as last summer me and the mrs went the lakes as we do as often as we can with our orchy 600 but this time we took two friends so there was two men and two women (with all the stuff ladys take) and I must say we had no dramas with space. Okay we do have the extension which if i was you I would definetly buy as I stops the livin area smellin of whatever you have been cookin but we kept the bags in the living area and just sleeping bags and things we need to hand like wash kits was in the bedroom oh and we used the partion.

     But as far as claustrophobia I cant see how as it has three windows and the ceiling one which I have never seen before on other tentsand also the ventilation is excellent, we had to spend an hour with the four of us in there as there was a langdale valley rain special followed by the scorchin sun again without anyone crackin up inside. Also with it gettin wet inside well if erected propley this tent will not leak. Pitching is simple only takes about 30 mins with two of us i'm only 5"9 and the mrs 5"6 and we have no probs at all no need to stand inside it and we have had some wind when erecting especially in langdale valley when you get a random gust followed by a gale.

  Anyway hope that cleared a few things up gotta get back to work just cant wait to get home from Afganistan now and get back camping when on leave.

 



12/3/2010 at 12:36pm
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Oh I forgot take a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwoFxVImi9o  Okay its a 500 but its one man erecting it in like 6 mins

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12/3/2010 at 1:14pm
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The Orchy certainly has its followers; as VANGO's own website states, how many tents have their own appreciation society? (I assume that they were refering to this thread) So I know I'm going out on a limb when I express reservations about it. However, just let me clarify one or two points.

The issue with rain gettin in was merely relating to when you try and get in and out of the tent when it is raining. Unless you have tent doors that are verticle then this is always going to be an issue; and it can be so even then as I recall with the patrol tents in my scouting days. I found that even with the "eyebrow" side canopy on my Outwell Minnesota that it was all-but certain that some rain would get into the living area; that was the chief reason why I bought the extension to go with it (see my reviews on both for further explanation). Both doors on the Orchy are at an angle, especially the front door and so liable to letting in rain when you open them to get in and out of the tent. Other than that the Orchy is perfectly waterproof like virtually any other tent of reasonable quality.

As for the calustrophobia issue, I was making a comparison with most Outwell tents. If you click on the 360 internal view icon of the Oakland XL you will see just how airy and what great views of the outside you get. You could be sitting down on the floor of the living area playing cards or boardgames with your children on a rainy day and still have a great perspective of the scenery around you. The Orchy has a couple of relatively narrow windows at the front, one at the side at head-height when you are standing and two skylights; you certainly don't get the panoramic view that you get with my Minny, the Oakland, etc.

I take the points made by more than one member that it can be pitched solo; I can pitch the Minny solo but I don't like doing so. And the bloke from Yeomans pretty much pitches tents for a living and one video has him pitching a Montana solo; it can be done, but....

As I said in my first post, it is a good tent in some respects and, again, I think that the improvements VANGO has made to this year's range are significant. But I believe that for a little extra money you can get a significantly better tent. But, each to their own.

Anyway, I hope you return safe and sound, Roberts3617. My cousin was posted in Iraq and I have nothing but admiration for the job you do. Enjoy your camping on your return.


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12/3/2010 at 2:26pm
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Former Scout, I agree entirely with the sloping door scenario, its a nightmare, and I have been guilty of leaving the door slightly open on my return form a midnight toilet visit only to wake up in the morning to a swimming pool. We bought the large sun canopy to solve the problem. Without a canopy of any sort I have the same issue with all my tents...especially the smaller cabanon, which we got truly soaked in last autumn...carpet an` all.

I think the Orchy benefits from a canopy to camp in the rain..it makes it a completely different tent

Never had an issue withh the small windows ourselves, as we rarely use our tents for anything but sleeping in.... we bought a tarp so we could be outside if it rained. Also ours is an 2007 and I think the windows were actually bigger. and if it was raining I tried not to look out of the windows

I also agree that for more money you can get a better tent, but if you like the Orchy and it fits your budget its a cracking tent.........for no more than 4 people and then only if you`re very close!!!!!

Of al the tents on here it seems to be the Orchy which gets defended vehemently by its owners......that has to tell you something



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12/3/2010 at 2:55pm
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Thanks for all the replies!

I think I'll try and see if there is a shop near me that has one of these, to get a look at it in the flesh! I do agree that for a weeks holiday it would seem to be too small, but for 1-2 nights it might be ok, but I'll have a look and see!

I'm pleased to hear that most people are happy with puting it up etc, as that was one of my main worries!

Thanks again!


12/3/2010 at 4:04pm
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LOL I agree that the appreciation society is a little over the top I just hope I didnt come over vehemently as I wasnt saying anyone was wrong just giving my opinions. Lets face it everyone pitches slightly differently and these slight differences seem to make a big difference.

The front door for example when we first pitched it I pegged it out before the guys and I got the sinking arch type thing in the door but if I put the guys in first for the door then peg it out and then reajust the guys I get no sink.

Anyway for me staying in this tent its like the MGM grand to me as I spend most my time under a poncho in the green zone lol, anyway hope I was of some help at least.

Chris



12/3/2010 at 5:11pm
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Hi

We have a 2008 Orchy 600 and it is our main tent for longer touring hols for just 2 of us, but I have used it with friends and relatives for a shorter break for 5 people and it was....snug to say the least!

The bedroom is a funny layout and you would propably end up with your smaller children sleeping along an edge at right angles to you in order to really fit 6 bods in there. You could do weekends with an extension  and with most kit left in the vehicle. However,  you would not have seating space for eating together and it would be unbearably crowded in wet weather.

I am 5'6" and put this up fine on my own in 20 mins- but I am a woman of many years of tent wrangling experience so make that a little longer for people who do nto have my instinctive level of tent wisdom!

So I suppose I am saying I am happy with this tent, but it may be a little too cramped for your particular needs. So yes it is a very good idea to go and see tents for real before deciding.




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