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I like this tent and would be quite happy to purchase one if I had a need for one, although I admit I'd look at the 450 as an alternative because I like the space.

The fact the ground sheet isn't sown in on the porch isn't that big a deal and means you don't have to use it at all if the weather is fine like it is right now.

An alternative, with a sown in groundsheet, is the Vango Kairos 300 or 400 (although avoid the 500 version the door isn't a good design) and the benefit with this tent is the stand up height with a relatively small footprint.

If the groundsheet was sewn in to the portch you'd probably drown in condensation. It needs to be loose to get enough ventilation in a tent that size.

I've got a Beta 350 on my list of "to buy" tents though, so I must like it.

We have the 450 and love it.  The porch not being sown in isn't a big deal as we keep our clothes in the boot of the car in case of dampness anyway.

Our Beta is the black and grey one (excalibur?)  and was absolutely roasting this last week in the sunshine, not sure if the paler colour would have made a difference though as it was at least 24c everyday.  We were glad of the ventilation at night

Quote: Originally posted by Valk_scot on 26/6/2010

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If the groundsheet was sewn in to the portch you'd probably drown in condensation. It needs to be loose to get enough ventilation in a tent that size.

I've got a Beta 350 on my list of "to buy" tents though, so I must like it.

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Quote: Originally posted by hlk01 on 27/6/2010

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Quote: Originally posted by conneechiwa on 26/6/2010

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We have the 450 and love it.  The porch not being sown in isn't a big deal as we keep our clothes in the boot of the car in case of dampness anyway.

Our Beta is the black and grey one (excalibur?)  and was absolutely roasting this last week in the sunshine, not sure if the paler colour would have made a difference though as it was at least 24c everyday.  We were glad of the ventilation at night

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I'm 5' 1" and hubby 5' 3" and we just fit in on our airbeds (heads at the door of the bedroom pod, feet towards the back of the tent) and no more.

Since it is just yourself you could sleep sideways in the 450 no problem as we fit in a double airbed and a single with room for a holdall at my side, so I'm sure it is more than 6' wide, I'll measure later if you want, but I wont be back online for a few days unfortunately, to tell you.  The only reason we dont sleep sideways is the slope at the rear of the tent is quite low so someone would have a face full of inner at night.

Quote: Originally posted by conneechiwa on 27/6/2010

I'm 5' 1" and hubby 5' 3" and we just fit in on our airbeds (heads at the door of the bedroom pod, feet towards the back of the tent) and no more.

Since it is just yourself you could sleep sideways in the 450 no problem as we fit in a double airbed and a single with room for a holdall at my side, so I'm sure it is more than 6' wide, I'll measure later if you want, but I wont be back online for a few days unfortunately, to tell you.  The only reason we dont sleep sideways is the slope at the rear of the tent is quite low so someone would have a face full of inner at night.

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Hey DC - the 450 is 7 foot wide and just over 6' from door to back in the sleeping area.

Hope that helps you decide

Quote: Originally posted by conneechiwa on 29/6/2010

Hey DC - the 450 is 7 foot wide and just over 6' from door to back in the sleeping area.

Hope that helps you decide

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My 3 Boys use the beta 400, easy to erect. they had a vanga ventura 400, which at the time had a sewn in groundsheet in the living area attatched to the fky sheet, very good but a devil to fold up

 go fot it

     Steve