Went to one of the Yeoman tent exhibition today and was looking at the Outwell and Vango tents. Really impressed with the Outwell in particular. They just seemed better put together and definitely brighter inside. I did look at the Bear lake 6 and the Wolf Lake 6 and they are amazing , with them being polycotton they were very cool inside instead of the other makes which were boiling.
My issue is that i was going to get 2 tents, a big one such as the wolf lake for when we go for weekends and week/2 week hols and a smaller one for when we go for just one night on a whim.
How long does it take to put up the wolf lake or bear lake? as if its not too long i could save some money and use it for just the 1 nighters. If they are excessive times to pitch, which outwell tent that is smaller has polycotton?
Matt
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I would recommend you buy one tent to start off with. Once you've lived with it for a while you'd have more idea what you want in the second tent.
I think those big tents are probably too much faffing about for one nighters. A good 'weekend' tent would be the Vango Icarus 500 which is a ten minute pitch time.
But the Icarus is polyester, and if you like the heavier weight there's a polycotton coleman smaller tent (McKenzie cabin I think it's called) and also some smaller Outwells (like the Trout Lake).
We always allow an hour to fully pitch and peg out the Bear Lake, including footprint... Then three hours to fill it with all the junk we take
We've bought a weekender to quicken pitching/striking during shorter stays and save the "Big Tent" for longer holidays...
Agree with frome... Buy the one tent... See how you get on... You may pitch it quicker than us - we don't rush and have a 5 year old to entertain whilst pitching so our timings are probably at the longer side than normal...
Have to say though, when in the weekender, I don't have miss the comfort of the BL...
The reviews pages may give some indication of pitch time - although our Outwell is a different sort, it has the same number of 'arches' as the Wolf Lake so I would imagine pitch time broadly similar at about 1 hour - 1.5 hours (including pegging out). Furniture will add more time depending on what you have!
I work on the pitch time to be proportional to the stay, i.e. I want a tent that only takes 15 mins to put up if I'm only staying a weekend, but happy to spend an hour on the Outwell if staying for a week. Bear in mind (unless this is just us??) that taking the tent down again properly (drying out, tying up guylines, and the major challenge of getting it back in the bag it came in) may take longer than putting it up
The Outwell 'River' tents are the smaller polycottons (Yukon, Missouri and Hudson as far as I can see). The Lakes are the biggies.
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Hello Matt.
Just to add to the confusion.
We went to a Yeoman Tent Exhibition earlier this month, I had 4 tents in mind, 1st choice (Coleman Waterfall 5) did not live up to my expectations. The others were not suitable either.
We ended up with an Outwell Viginia 5.
It is suitable for our weekend trips, and I feel we could spend a week in it also.
It was good value as well.
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I'd go with frome, unless your dad is Bill Gates then buy one decent tent, and after a couple of trips you will soon get to know what elase you would like from the next one, Ie more bedrooms, more shared space more windows etc.
Also before going on to something the size of a small chateau, find something comfortable thats quick (and easy to put up) and just go with the flow.
My suggestion would be an Icarus 600 or if you want something a little larger a Maritsa 700, they are both really good family size tents with all of the quality and features we have come to expect from Vango.
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We just have the BL for our family of 5....having been through 3 avantgarde tents due to faults but still wanting an outwell we have the polycotton...
a brill tent....but fully full with us 5....however having been quite worried on a gale force night in a bigger polyester am really pleased with the slightly smaller but sturdier and cooler BL 6. We have it in the garden at the moment in 30 degress and although hot inside it soon cools down with all the windows and doors open..
I would def go for one tent but make it a quality one..
Also just a thought...A utility tent is really useful especially with young children...means you have more space in your tent....we have the quechua base seconds which you can also sleep in....maybe some thing like that could double as a utility tent and a weekend set up?
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Wolf 5 or Bear 6 and you will have the best sub 1k tent availabe today and very pleased with your purchase. Trial run before the big event in the garden and give it good soaking, load up, sit back and enjoy the holiday.
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We've just bought the Outwell Nevada M - it pitched in less than 10 mins because the inners are in it and it only has three poles - so ideal for weekends and we are also planning to take it on our long holiday because we will probably move sites every 4 or 5 days.
We've bought the canopy which we won't bother with on overnights, but hope that will give us reasonable living space for the longer stops.
If there is a similar sized polycotton tent with canopy then I would think it could serve as a 'dual' purpose tent in the same way?
Ours is currently sitting in the garden waiting for rain to test its waterproofness - if it doesn't rain tonight I think I'll get the hosepipe out!
We bought the Norfolk Lake (now discontinued) to cater for a full week or 2 away.....and after a couple of times taking it on a weekender, we decided to go for a smaller one too.
We ended up with a lovely little canvas frame tent from ebay for basically sleeping and storing bags (not a lot of room for anything else) and a basic tunnel tent canopy that fits on the front to set up the kitchen (or take a utility tent if we have the space)
The whole idea of getting away for the weekend is to go, quick pitch and beer, get rid of the kids to the play areas....and relax!
Both the Wolf Lake and Bear Lake are excellent choices and both take about 40mins to do the initial setup. Its the extra 45 mins of putting the beds in and things that makes the overall pitch time a pain for weekends.
On my dream list is a Karsten inflatable tent. Reduced pitch time but build quality second to none and still as roomy as bear lake. (just very expensive)
I only like cotton / polycotton tents so a Bell Tent or Pyramid would do the trick too for a weekender.
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i have the same tents as justinparker, i think the bear lake will end up being too small with 3 kids (we've got 3 kids too). it takes us about an hour to put up, but as you say that is probably because i keep having to see to the kids. you also need two people to pitch it. look at the video on pitching a bear lake (will be the same to do wolf lake) on youtube. it is a lot quicker to do it this way than how outwell tell you to
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