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Hi Folks, Firstly can I thank all the folks who replied to my previous posts and my apologies if I didn't reply to each of you.

Anyway still not got my first tent yet but think I have narrowed it down to the 2 mentioned above. As I mentioned in earlier posts I am on a fairly tight budget (Single parent with daughter at Chester Uni etc) but I would like my first tent to be easy to pitch (camping on my own), stable, one I can stand up in (6'1" tall) and hopefully dry lol. I know the Icarus 500 has loads of good reviews on here but how does it compare to the Quechua base seconds 4.1 ? Did notice the comments about velcro fastening on the Quechua ground sheet and comments about bugs being able to enter so is the Icarus better in this respect ?

Anyway won't waffle on too much lol and look forward to replies and advice.

Regards Steve.....Am I still indecisive or not ? ... not sure......lol

PS are the Quechua Sleepin beds any good ???

As always I look forward to any replies