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Subject Topic: Poly-Cotton life span Post Reply Post New Topic
15/8/2010 at 4:56pm
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Hi there to all you Poly-Cotton owners what life span do you expect or have had to your tents



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15/8/2010 at 5:59pm
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Several years, hopefully, as we love it so very much and £650, though a lot cheaper than the RRP when it was first on the market, was still more money than we'd want to spend too often.  I don't know how ambitious a wish that is!  We're doing our best to look after it super carefully and expect to use it for at least three trips away each summer.  Good question, Zipperwales.  I'll be interested to read the answers...



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15/8/2010 at 10:07pm
 Location: Newark Nottinghamshire
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If you treat it properly and don't pack it away wet, a lifetime sounds about right!


15/8/2010 at 10:30pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Teloz on 15/8/2010
If you treat it properly and don't pack it away wet, a lifetime sounds about right!

I would be surprised if it would last as long as a cotton tent, as the polyester component is highly sensitive to UV degradation. Sprayway say that it disperses UV rays better and so increases the lifespan of the tent relative to polyester. The fabric is also supposed to be more treatable with UV resistant products. You should get a longer life span, but a lifetime sounds a bit optimistic. Some polycottons have a much higher polyester component than others. Kampa and Outwell have high percentages of cotton, Vango and others less so (don't know about Royal).

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15/8/2010 at 11:08pm
 Location: Berkshire
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I think this is a very difficult question to answer with any kind of accuracy. As I understand it they're a relatively new innovation so we don't have track record to go by. I'd be suprised if it was as simple as, for example:

a 35% polyester / 65% cotton tent having a lifespan

   = 35% x polyester lifespan + 65% x cotton lifespan

   (let's say = 0.35 x 5 + 0.65 * 30 = 21.25 years)

Without any other evidence it'd be my best guess though.

I await true enlightenment ...


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16/8/2010 at 12:01am
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 Outfit: Bell tent & lavvu & Coleman Avior X2
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I'm a landscaper. I wear poly/cotton work trouser (35% polyeser, 65% cotton). I wear them day after day after day, and they are in and out the washing machine every other night. And they don't degrade. They get ripped by nails and thorns and branches and stuff, and they wear on the knees where I'm scrabbling around on the ground. I have a ten made from the same poly/cotton mix, and of similar weight fabric, and I seriously expect it to last a lifetime of camping - the trousers have done me over a year of constant harsh treatment.


16/8/2010 at 10:10am
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Quote: Originally posted by petemillis on 16/8/2010
I'm a landscaper. I wear poly/cotton work trouser (35% polyeser, 65% cotton). I wear them day after day after day, and they are in and out the washing machine every other night. And they don't degrade. They get ripped by nails and thorns and branches and stuff, and they wear on the knees where I'm scrabbling around on the ground. I have a ten made from the same poly/cotton mix, and of similar weight fabric, and I seriously expect it to last a lifetime of camping - the trousers have done me over a year of constant harsh treatment.

Your trousers will be made from a higher denier polyester than used in a polycotton tent. Even an increase from 75 denier (most polyester tents) to 100 denier (Kampa ultimate tent) increases the UV resistance by 100-150%. Just done a google and climbing trousers can use 600 denier polyester, so you can imagine just how much longer they are likely to last compared to a tent.

Unfortunately, the higher the denier the greater the weight (as well as tear and UV resistance) and polycotton tents try and use polyester to partly reduce the weight of the flysheet so the denier is not likely IMHO to be as UV resistant as your trousers - which is a shame.

Helen -     PS seen some walking trousers of 1200 denier!



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16/8/2010 at 12:35pm
 Location: None Entered
 Outfit: Bell tent & lavvu & Coleman Avior X2
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The trousers are the same weight fabric as my Norwegian polycotton lavvu - so you're right, probably quite a lot heavier than most polycotton tents.

I wonder how much advantage the NikWax solar stuff will give? Supposed to increase UV resistance, but I haven't seen long terms results.



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