While still trying to decide on which tent we are going to buy I was just looking at the 2011 Montana 6 and the windows have zip up curtains but they cannot be opened (although they have a mesh ventilation panel above).
Am I right in thinking that the 2010 Montana 6 had windows that you could zip open (and you could have as mesh?)
If I remember correctly then this seems like a bit of a backwards step to me? (Although as I have never had a Montana 6 I can't really judge...perhaps these features were not very well used?)
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They were zip out previously but also smaller. They have gone for much bigger windows for 2011 as Outwell customers seem to be going for the more panoramic designs. It may be that they couldn't make the larger ones zip out while maintaining the structural integrity of the flysheet. Alternatively, it could be a cost limiting exercise.
I don't like the idea of zip out windows myself, as windows are often one of the weaker parts of tents, more ready to go into holes when creased (although modern materials may be less prone to this - hopefully given the way the Outwell salesman treats zip out windows on the Trout Lake on a YouTube video). I always fold tents for packing away in a manner than minimises creases in the windows to maintain longevity. The ones on the Trout lake would also appear to zip open from the outside - I don't know if the Montana ones did - which would be even easier game for a thief or a mischievous child.
I wouldn't fancy accidentally leaving one open when you go off for the day either (especially if children play with them...)
Helen
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Hi
All of the above is correct, if you like the idea of the fully opening windows then Vango have gone down this route on the Monte Verde and Amazon tents.
Gary Cross
I didn't realise that the windows didn't open on the 2011 version, I knew they were bigger. Backward step in my mind. I have a 2010 version (bought 2009 but had to have it exchanged (due to the Outwell quality gremlins).
In the summer when it gets warm, it is certainly nice and cooling to open the windows and zip the mesh in place. It gives you a breeze, daylight, but also some privacy.
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Yup, 2011 model has non-opening windows. :( We had a good look at it in GoOutdoors
Bad idea if you ask me. Tents get hot and stuffy or full of condensation. We have a 2007 model with opening windows and they are often open so we do use them a lot. Even just for handing tea/coffee/beer/wine/food through them when cooking outside or when wet and windy and you dont want to open the door to do the same.
Madness not to have them opening. Crazy Norwegians
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we had a montana a couple of years ago, we thought the quality was really bad,within one year tiny holes had appeared in it and we had never had a tent with such bad condensation, maybe we were unlucky, happy camping, gary
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