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Personrank
04/4/2011 at 3:47pm
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First time posting so hi all.

Just bought new Monty 6 & awning, I know they are supposed to be fairly straight forward to pitch. But I was curious to hear if anyone had any tips on the best way to go about it. Ive seen the official Outwell you tube vid, but there is also one of a guy (YEOMANS OUTDOOR of AMBLESIDE) putting up end sections first and then adding middle sections once tent is up. Looks quicker this way. What do you monty owners think?


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Personclunty
04/4/2011 at 4:10pm
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We have tried a few ways, but now do one end (poles in, up and guyed) then t'other end, then middle two poles. Sounds like the Yeomans way you mention. I have seen all poles in, up all together and then sort of "walked" apart (like a concertina, if that makes sense?) which looked a good method but am too weak and feeble to make a go of it!!


Personrank
04/4/2011 at 4:40pm
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Thanks Clunty. Think Im going to use the same method as you, as Im feeling a bit "week and feeble" myself just now-put my back out the day we picked up the new tent believe it or not, such is life-so anything that makes it easier!


Personcleck camper
04/4/2011 at 5:16pm
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We do the all poles in first method , then lift , walk and peg.
The porch however is always a little tricky , i've never had this square yet and the poles are a very tight fit.


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PersonSpeedcamp
04/4/2011 at 5:24pm
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We have Vango's version of the Monty and tried the Yeoman-man's way, but felt that it was a bit precarious and we had less control. We didn't like the way that you were trying to feed steel poles through the sleeves in mid-air so went back to:

- putting all the poles on their pins, pegging the back of the tent, lifting and gathering the poles together at the back of the tent and walking forward, stretching the fly as you go and then pulling out and pegging the bottom of the front of the tent. Heavy but we felt more in control and that it put less stress on the flysheet.

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PersonTidburyboy
04/4/2011 at 5:31pm
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I don't have a Monty, but the Trout Lake is a tunnel design too. I also put all poles in on the deck, peg the back end and pull up a bit like a pram roof with a guy or two "roughly" pegged too, then walk it out as said before, pulling against the guyed end.


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04/4/2011 at 7:30pm
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Hi rank,

Monty owner for 5 years - the Yeomans way is a good 'un. Can be tricky in the wind. Do back end first and make sure front door is unzipped unless it is raining and then keep it shut. Roughly peg the back with some guy lines then do the front then the middle 2.
If you can quickly peg out all 4 corners you will then have a stable structure and be able to commence tweaking!
Another useful strategy is to put all your poles roughly in place so 4 legs each side and I actually thread the roof poles once the back is up.

It is possible to pitch solo, with practice, in about 20 mins - always easier with 2.

BTW - when it comes to packing away I have found that once the tent is down fold into 3 lengthways so that you still have the full length of the tent but only enough width to fit in the bag. Then very carefully and slowly roll it from the back towards the door expelling all the air as you roll.
I posted last year because of some daft p***ing contest with a fellow Monty owner but managed to get it in the bag with the poles and pegs - that is 5 years work though and you can't lift the bag.

Good luck - it's a great tent and the awning is fab. Ours is sadly now semi retired but had a good life.


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Personrank
04/4/2011 at 10:49pm
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Thanks for all the advice. Going to give the yeoman's method a go, partly to save my back, and partly because the idea of shouting instructions over the tent to my lesser half whilst using the"pram roof" method sounds like a recipe for disaster( if you met her you would understand).

Having said that if we get a windy day I may change my mind, the idea of trying to insert poles in mid air with the fly sheet blowing around doesn't sound too appealing either, and speedcamp your point about stress on flysheet does worry me a bit.

Also thanks for the advice on packing away GS should come in useful.
Hopefully if the weatherman's forecast for high pressure is right will be giving it a go this weekend, cant wait.



Personclunty
05/4/2011 at 8:55am
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I think it's also a good idea to take your time over it. Each time you pitch you get faster and it does make you feel a right numpty when all around tents seem to be going up in what seems like seconds! But don't rush, just take it steady. I'm sure you'll love it.


Personrank
05/4/2011 at 10:39am
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Sound advice I think.
Cheers Clunty.


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Personbarrington
05/4/2011 at 11:53am
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Having only pitched my monty 3 or 4 times just wondering now if im doing it right? I put in the back poles and then peg out the guys leaving the back of the tent standing and then move forward to the next set and put them into to place and so on.  I also seem to have trouble at times getting the poles into the keys and i am frightened about breaking something, i put the key in and then put the bottom segement of the leg back into place sometimes at a bit of a squeeze. Am i doing something wrong please? sorry to hijack your thread


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PersonRoad_Hog
05/4/2011 at 12:09pm
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Quote: Originally posted by rank on 04/4/2011
First time posting so hi all.

Just bought new Monty 6 & awning, I know they are supposed to be fairly straight forward to pitch.

Just remembers that the Yeomans video is done on a nice day in calm weather and the reality is that it isn't always like that. The first time I pitched the Monty it was quite easy, but it was a windless day.

The next few times it was quite windy (I mainly do coastal camping) and it was a lot harder. I tend to pitch it end into the wind, by pegging one end of the tent, inserting the poles and then pegging the guys, the wind then keeps that end of the tent up.

I then go along the tent and put the poles in, in order (all poles should be set out ready to hand before). Top pole in first and then the two side poles and peg it. Once I get to the end pole, I then just rejig the pole pegs just to make sure the tent is straight (obviously at this stage the tent is now free satnding). Then lastly sort out the guys.

The worst job of the lot is getting the tent back in the bag.


Personrank
05/4/2011 at 2:28pm
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Wow so many different options!
Think speedcamp was right just going to have to try all the options, Ive a feeling that over time well come to adopt more than one method depending on the weather.



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