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Subject Topic: 2000HH enough for sept/oct camping? Post Reply Post New Topic
30/8/2011 at 7:06pm
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hi there looking at buying a vango icarus 500 (2010) as a weekend tent for late season - reason being our larger tent is too difficult to dry out due to space, so was thinking a icarus would be ideal to take out for a couple of nights and still be able to dry it out once home - hence a few extra trips away for oct half term!

The one were looking at is a 2010 model and is 2000HH anyone got any experience as to whether this is enough for the later months  due to the great british weather lol

Thanks in advance



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30/8/2011 at 8:16pm
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I have a Vango Juno teepee which I think has a hydro head of 2000mm (maybe even less) and I am always amazed at how well it sheds the weather! Mind you, it is a steep walled tipi so it may not be a fair comparison with your Icarus?

But to be honest, how much worse can the weather get!! I have had some really cracking days in Autumn/Winter

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30/8/2011 at 8:37pm
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it might just be me being fussy but i wouldn t use a tent that has that low of a HH. any tent i buy had at least 3000mm HH

larry

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30/8/2011 at 8:42pm
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I dont think you are being fussy Larry. My Outwell carolina is 3000mm and there have been times in glencoe when I thought it was at the edge of its technological capability. The tipi probably gets away with a lower hh because of the steep sloping walls. It would appear, looking at the various new models coming out now from the big names, that 4000mm is fast becoming the industry standard.

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30/8/2011 at 9:00pm
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In this country we dont tend to get many solid columns of water we tend to get rain which comes down in droplets ranging in size from about 1mm to 8 mm depending on the amount being squeezed out of the clouds.

Dont get me wrong i do understand the dynamics of the HH test and i know that pretty much anything over 1500 will cope with anything we are likely to get over here.

The waterproofness of tents is far more likely to be dictated by the quality of the seam stitching and taping than by the HH of the material. 



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30/8/2011 at 9:11pm
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thanks for the replies guys, i was looking at the 2010 model purely because of price but for the extra £50 or so im thinking i may go for this years at 3000 HH,

To be honest im not quite sure how HH works  but did read somewhere that 1500HH was the minimum for this country, Thanks again



30/8/2011 at 9:26pm
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Hiya, 2000 hh is enough for this country, I have a Vango Oregan 400 2000hh. Never leaked. It had everything thrown at it, which this country can give.  But if you want a piece of mind go for the 3000 hh.

 

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30/8/2011 at 9:54pm
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My sister has the 2010 model and has camped loads of times when its been heaving down and the rain hasnt got through yet(touch wood), go for it


31/8/2011 at 8:59am
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As I understand HH. Imagine a drain pipe filled with water, to stop the water running out the bottom, wrap the end with a piece of tent fabric. HH is how many meters of water are inside the pipe before it starts to leak through. So 1500 HH will be one and a half meters of water inside the tube.

This only applies to synthetic tent fabric not natural fibre like cotton/canvas or poly cotton.



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31/8/2011 at 9:11am
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Exactly right, although the end of the drain pipe is only 10mm across.

1500mm HH is considered waterproof and I agree - this much water would mean you'd be swimming off the campsite so I wouldn't worry about the merits of a 5000mm+ HH


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31/8/2011 at 10:46am
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wow thats a good description of HH. Thanks for that. Learn something new every day !!

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31/8/2011 at 12:13pm
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Recently I've stayed in tents that were 1,000, 1,500 and more, I experienced heavy rain each time and none of them leaked.

I'd not feel comfortable relying on the 1,000HH tent (It's a summer festival tent) but plan to use the 1,500HH one in October and I won't panic if the heavens open.



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I'd look at a second hand canvas for that time of year for the same price

nice little vis a vis for £140 or offers

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cabanon-Vis-Vis-luxe-canvas-frame-tent-/260845063537?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_HikingCamping_Tents_JN&hash=item3cbb93cd71

 

 

 



31/8/2011 at 11:50pm
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Quote: Originally posted by raf48 on 31/8/2011

As I understand HH. Imagine a drain pipe filled with water, to stop the water running out the bottom, wrap the end with a piece of tent fabric. HH is how many meters of water are inside the pipe before it starts to leak through. So 1500 HH will be one and a half meters of water inside the tube.

This only applies to synthetic tent fabric not natural fibre like cotton/canvas or poly cotton.



A very good description Mr Scarecrow. Thank you very much.

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