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PersonJohn in Leeds
06/3/2012 at 9:27am
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Quote: Originally posted by dezzie on 05/3/2012
This Denier thing is a bit daft if you ask me. There are members on UKcampsite who've been using Outwell tents and a lot cheaper tents for a lot longer than 6 years. Its nonsense and a bit off putting to people who are starting up for the first time. If you take care of your tent, you'll get years out of it. Simples! .....



Below is a picture of polycotton Outwell tents after less than a season in Yorkshire. They exhibit serious fading that you would not see on a premium caravan awning over the same period. Whether that is acceptable or not is entirely up to the purchaser. The important thing is that the buyer is made aware of these products limitations and can make an informed decision to purchase. If the buyer is only going to expect a life of 6 or 8 weeks then of course fading will not be an issue.

BTW I use an older Bear Lake that has kept its original colour over 10 weeks total use including South of France. So it could be that changes in suppliers and reduced quality of materials are to blame. Who knows?



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Personsarahj17
06/3/2012 at 10:27am
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OMG why is trying to find a tent so hard i don't have this much trouble when i'm buying a car

I need a tent to fit two adult's and two children the reason i only want outwell is you can buy more extra's than other makes i have only been looking at 8 man tents as the last tent was a 8 but i might go for a 6.
I am starting to have enough of camping even before i start.
I have a max of 600 think i made up my mind i only want new

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PersonSpeedcamp
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Hi Sarahj17

Don't give up. If you want to buy new, the recommendation about going to a retail outlet with a good display is a good one (once the displays are up). You can get a real feel for what the tents are like inside and their quality. You will also get to see how big/heavy they are packed, so determine what is really best for you. You can always do a bit of online price comparison before hand or afterwards. Finding a good retailer that is willing to help and advise can be a real bonus too! Make a day out of it. The kids will love it and have their opinions too...

If you are interested in pre-2012 models you are generally reliant on the web and the reviews on the forum to inform your choice, although there is little change between 2011 and 2012 models for most manufacturers.

Good luck!



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PersonOld Grey
06/3/2012 at 11:04pm
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Sarahj17 I know this is slightly more than your budget at £650 but it is a new cotton tent :)   Yes it is a older design ( not last years ) but if you are not a fashion poser then it may just outlast many of the 2012 poly tents you can buy no matter who they are made by.

http://www.norwichcamping.co.uk/products/kampa-holkham-6-2010/

If you want to read reviews and see images of it have a look here on this site in the tent review section

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/tents/p/Kampa-Holkham-6/1017


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Persondezzie
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Below is a picture of polycotton Outwell tents after less than a season in Yorkshire. They exhibit serious fading that you would not see on a premium caravan awning over the same period. Whether that is acceptable or not is entirely up to the purchaser. The important thing is that the buyer is made aware of these products limitations and can make an informed decision to purchase. If the buyer is only going to expect a life of 6 or 8 weeks then of course fading will not be an issue.

BTW I use an older Bear Lake that has kept its original colour over 10 weeks total use including South of France. So it could be that changes in suppliers and reduced quality of materials are to blame. Who knows?




This is completely irrelevant to the issue of Denier though. That measurement in particular is with regards to polyester tents NOT polycotton tents. I own a Norfolk Lake and have to admit after a LOT of use, its faded quite a bit, It hasnt however lost any of its water or wind proof qualities and as far as I can see with my "untrained" eye, the material is in pretty much tip top condition. To show a photograph of 2 outwell polycotton tents that have been obviously on display through ALL weathers in the (by the looks of it) Yeomans tent display, there cant be a realistic comparison. We dont live in these tents and they arent pitched for a period of say 9 months (as most display tents are), we take them home with us and pack them in cupboards bringing them out for a week or two at a push maybe 4 or 5 times over the summer. We dont get hot humid summers in the UK and we are too far north for the UV damage that some people tend to exaggerate about. The proof though is very much in the pudding. If you buy a decent poly tent and you've still got use of it after say 10 seasons then well done you!   The difference with a caravan awning is that the majority are made of high quality heavy duty canvas or similar. I could however show you a photo of numerous very scruffy and faded caravan awnings that are connected to seasonal pitches in sites we visit and to be completely honest make those photos of the Outwells look like they are just out of the box.

In my opinion (with tongue very much in cheek), most of us replace our tents with one reason and one reason only. Tent envy. We see one we like and all of a sudden our own tent is just not good enough for us any more. Go on deny it. Even im guilty of it.




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