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Subject Topic: water proofing a new tent?? Post Reply Post New Topic
29/4/2012 at 6:25pm
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Someone posted on another forum asking for advice etc.

They're thinking of getting a gelert Meridian 10 beyond tent.

Lots of useful advice, but one person said to make sure they waterproofed the tent first??

I replied a brand new tent shouldn't need water proofing, which is correct is it not?

 



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29/4/2012 at 6:27pm
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Yes.

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29/4/2012 at 6:35pm
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thanks survivors

The other person reckon I was wrong to suggest a brand new tent shouldn't need waterproofing.

they replied to my comment about not waterproofing with...

Actually I disagree.....the repellent applied in the factory is normally pretty superficial and the outer fabric will wet within minutes a light shower.

This will not cause leaking but it will cause additional condensation.

In addition it would be wise to apply a UV protector anyway (as per the freebie product I linked to)......although this might not be appropriate in the UK at the moment

 



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Hubby says we can't camp as much this yr mmm we'll see!!
camped in 2009= 27nights
Booked for 2010 = 30 nights.

YAH I win!!

Looks like I was right he he


29/4/2012 at 7:38pm
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as polyester tents have the waterproofing applied to the inside whatever you do to the outside will not affect condensation,as the tent can not breath anyway.
as to waterproofing a new tent,then no you don't have to,but there is a school of thought that a tent will last longer if it is coated with a uv protection.a poly tent will last at least 5 years with normal use,so do you really need it to last longer?

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29/4/2012 at 7:39pm
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Shelli i know if i was a tent manufacturer i wouldnt be very happy if someone said the way i waterproof my tents was superficial.
I would guess the person who replied to you was either a fool or cleverly trying to flog a product he was involved in hence the freebie product.
You do not need to waterproof a new tent however it is wise to weather a new cotton tent.
just a thought.


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29/4/2012 at 7:47pm
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Dragon5551

yep agree about weathering a cotton tent, but weathering is different to waterproofing. And the tent in question isn't a cotton tent.

 

But thanks for the replies as his response kinda made me doubt myself.



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Campers do it in the mud!
Hubby says we can't camp as much this yr mmm we'll see!!
camped in 2009= 27nights
Booked for 2010 = 30 nights.

YAH I win!!

Looks like I was right he he


29/4/2012 at 8:11pm
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Hi Shelli,

Just ask him that if the waterproofing was superficial why do the manufacturers fall over themselves at times to come up with increased hydrostatic head measurements accross thier ranges. Outwell currently sell tents with 3,000 4,000 5,000 and 6,000 hydrostatic head - by no meanms a superficial waterproofing.

In the quote given he admits that it will not cause leaking - is that not waterproof?

Condensation forms as the fabric is waterproof and for a polyester tent not at all breathable. Thus air\water vapour cannot pass through it. When the moisture laden air inside a tent hits the flysheet which is colder it then causes condensation. I can't see how any application of waterproofing can prevent the formation of condensation.

I would suggest you don't give any second thoughts to his advice.

Cheers

 



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29/4/2012 at 9:13pm
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LOL am not gonna start WW3 over it, his comments jut made me doubt my belief that was all. And I knew I could get an anwer here

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Hubby says we can't camp as much this yr mmm we'll see!!
camped in 2009= 27nights
Booked for 2010 = 30 nights.

YAH I win!!

Looks like I was right he he


30/4/2012 at 1:11am
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Just a thought...if a polyester tent is not breathable, how come when you roll it up to pack it away, air is forced out through the material? Must have holes in it


30/4/2012 at 5:55pm
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The air comes out through the bottom of the doors on ours

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01/5/2012 at 1:18pm
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My Meridian 10 has NEVER leaked, even in the firecest rainstorms.

As others have suggested, I think perhaps your "advisor" has a product to sell!



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01/5/2012 at 7:23pm
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Did you want it to

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We had a torrential 26 hour down pour on the Rivera last year and we had `sprinkles` come through our Icarus 500,but we laughed about it because it was horendous weather and we were safe and comparatively dry in comparison with others on the site.

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