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Hi Kentrish Trisha, thank you for stating the obvious to me - I feel incredibly thick!!!  It never entered my head that possibly the Rosas/Quechua combo might work ... I was just thinking of the bell/quechua combo.  Yes I will definitely give it some thought.  The quechua is still unused, so I'll need to think hard about it before I decide to use it with the Rosas, because right now I can sell it as "as new", which might not be the case if I take it away even once.  But thanks very much for suggesting the Rosas/Quechua together.

Sleedale, thank you also for your informative post on arrangements.  It sounds like Toureg might not quite provide the extra space I was hoping for.  I have also decided that no way would I use the frontier stove in it .... the space would be too confined and too many dangers with a 6 yr old boy.  In fact after reading so much about CO monoxide poisoning in the last 24 hours, I'm now really scared to use the stove inside the tent at all.  When we camped in Feb in the 5m bell with frontier stove (2.5kw), we had to supplment it with 2 fan heaters - as Val has pointed out a 5M bell really requires a 4kw stove to heat it sufficiently.

Lots to think about..... thanks everybody.  I'll post back when I have a better idea of what to do.  In the meantime I'll keep watching other threads to get better ideas of what will work for us. 

Thanks everybody,

Humbird

Obelink do sell the SIG version?

http://www.obelink.nl/tenten/groepstenten/tripstein-super.html?category_params=category_id%3D1194%26page%3D2

Must admit I love the Toerag

My only comment is the Rosas is more of an all year rounder, I think the Toerag is more suited to warmer conditions, mainly because of the mesh windows

There were quite a few pics on this link if they help with size etc

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=3&TopicID=268848&SearchPagePosition=1&search=toerag&searchMode=phrase&searchIn=Topic&forum=3&searchSort=dateDESC&ReturnPage=Search

I would also comment that the Toerag has more usable space than the 4m bell