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Subject Topic: Montana 6P package - is this a good deal? Post Reply Post New Topic
23/8/2012 at 3:53pm
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I have managed to price match a few suppliers and have got on hold a Montana 6P package that includes: tent, awning, carpet, footprint and windscreen for a total of £628.

I think this is a good deal and need some opinions/convincing from you lot in the know that this is the deal I think it is.

Ought I to wait until the autumn / winter for a potential bargain? I'm in no rush. We have an invitation to go camping in September and the offer of borrowing a tent. We have pretty much decided that our summer holiday next year will be camping in France and it seems that buying a tent and heading south is as cheap as buying a camping holiday package. There after the cost per holiday should be cheaper.



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With retailers wanted to sell off stock before winter now is probably as good as anytime to buy. Some tents have sold out already

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the price for all of that is excellent - just make sure its the tent that you really want though.

i only say that because you mention going to france with it next year.

i know from experience only just recently getting our 1st ever polycotton tent what a real difference this fabric makes in the sun. the tent remains comfortable whereas with the nylon/polyester tent it was very hot inside.

try seeing and being inside the polycotton version of this tent before you take the plunge. Go outdoors have the Montana Lake on offer at the moment so you could get a good deal on it.

i still have my polyester tents but use them in cool weather camping - the polycotton comes out the rest of the time. ( its also very nice and quiet and doesnt make that crisp packet rustling noise in the wind! )

otherwise i doubt the actual deal on that 6p tent outfit could get much better.


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Thanks for the replies. Dbice, now you've thrown a spanner in the works!!

I considered the polycotton tents as I am a little concerned about the 6P possibly being very hot if we get some sun in France! Unfortunately, they are a little out of my price range.

However, with the offer at Go Outdoors I'm tempted to get it and not have the awning for the 6P. Although, I'd prefer an awning to an extension and I am not sure if they are available for the polycotton Outwell.



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24/8/2012 at 1:18pm
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well the temps are very high in france at the mo ... i wouldnt want to be inside a polyester tent in 30c+ temps!

for me personally i would buy the montana lake version in polycotton, and you can always add the extension later on when funds allow and when outwell make the extension in polycotton - bear in mind that the montana is a new tent in the polycotton range - so the extension may not come out for a while anyways.

you see a lot of polycotton tents on the continent - and i wonder if the reason why is quite simply that a polyester tent would be just too uncomfortable hot and humid inside with no air movement?

there are of course other options for extending your living area ( but do you need to? - the montana is already a large tent )
but you could consider using a tarp to cook under, the open ended outwell awning ( maybe buy a used one off ebay etc to see how you get on with it? )

or even looking at other/bigger cotton / polycotton tents. - id never had one before, but they are so different and very pleasant to camp in - if it wasnt for this forum i doubt i would have found out about them. i love mine and for warm weather camping i would never go back to polyester now.

someone on here is selling a newish wolf lake - its someone with a thread about how much to sell 2nd hand tents for - you might like to consider that tent?

good luck and let us know what you decide to do!


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24/8/2012 at 1:43pm
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If you can afford polycotton then it is worth the upgrade as it will be cooler in warm weather and warmer in cool weather. The added benefit is the tent will also last longer anyway.

As far as I'm aware Outwell do not yet make the closed awning for the Montana Lake only the open extension.


24/8/2012 at 1:53pm
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If you read this thread. Somerset camping have it for £549.99 so if you get a PM with Go Outdoors you could get the tent for £494.99.The only downside is that Go Outdoors may have run out of delivery stock so will only be relevant if you are close to a store with stock. Go Outdoors sometimes suspend delivery on special offer items.


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24/8/2012 at 2:58pm
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Thanks for your helpful comments.

I have managed to secure with Go Outdoors a Montana Lake for £494.99 and also a Montana 6P for £307.80. I think I am swaying towards the Lake , although the difference would pay for the 6P awning!

The possibility of a quieter, cooler/warmer tent is very appealing. the additional size and weight is a concern.

To throw another spanner in, which other polycotton tents should I consider?!! Maybe I shouldn't go there!!!

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have you read this review of a Cabanon Elody tent? copied and pasted here:-

y: Nessie_dog Reason: I own(ed) one Made in: 2001   Rating:   Date: 30/07/2011

Lovely large living area with large windows letting in lots of light. Very good headroom and bedrooms have a really cosy feel when double air bed in them. We have two children under 4 and it is great as one can sleep in proper size travel cot that fits into larger bedroom with the double airbed too. There is a door on the front and an entrance on the side and the front can be fully opened too. We wanted a canvas tent because we go to France camping and it gets too hot in a poly tent but we couldn't afford a new one so this was a bargain off ebay. Very easy to put up and take down. Only downside is the weight and size when packed up. But a small compromise for the cost and space!
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and then lo and behold on ebay :-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cabanon-Elody-E-926-/120973004931?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_HikingCamping_Tents_JN&hash=item1c2a8d9083#ht_500wt_949


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cabanon-Biscaya-500-Tent-/261084595197?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_HikingCamping_Tents_JN&hash=item3cc9dac3fd#ht_1357wt_932


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cabanon-Emilie-E316-6-person-tent-/251133317298?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_HikingCamping_Tents_JN&hash=item3a78b650b2#ht_500wt_949


and you might like to take a looky at the Cabanon site to get an idea of these brilliant French tents - ideal for french camping conditions! - the prices are something else - makes it look like outwell are just giving their tents away lol - but on ebay / on here / gumtree there are some Cabanon bargains.


you've just opened a can of worms i thinks. lol

oh, and you might whilst your at it, have a look at these canvas tents too:-

http://www.dewaardtenten.nl/index.php/tenten/vergrote-zilvermeeuw


the dutch DeWaard tents have the option of the Vario-Luifell ... its in effect a Variable Awning - its a very large and heavy canvas with mutiple mounting points that instead of being fixed only to the front of the tent, can also be fixed there in a conventional style but can also be attached for example, only to the side - handy if you want to sunbathe but be sheltered from the wind or for privacy but still get the sun. or a plethora of all different ways!.

they are rarely seen on uk sites, but i saw 2 in whitby and went to chat to the owners who not surprisingly were visiting from holland. i congratulated them on their wonderful tents as mine is only a lowly outwell bear lake tent ( a toy pretend tent compared to a de waard! ) and almost felt ashamed of it lol. the de waards are in a league of their own - probably only surpassed by Karsten tents. but supremely strong, well made from only the best of materials and as has been quoted before - DeWaard owners can disregard the weather and carry on camping!

you can see them for sale on www.marktplatz.nl and you'd likely have to take a trip to holland to buy a used one, but read the reviews from the owners on here!

its my ultimate tent - pure canvas for continental camping in the utmost comfort and knowing it could probably last a lifetime - the outwell wont do that i know, its good, but its not that good.

once you ve seen a cabanon, de waard or a Karsten - anything less is well just ummmm... ( anyways im on the lookout for a used one for the price of a new outwell! )

good luck - and i told ya - you dont know what you've started now!!!. lol


24/8/2012 at 3:31pm
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dbice has a good point the second hand canvas market can produce even better bargains.....


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Have tried every branch of Go Outdoors that state they have stock to find that none have stock of the Montana Lake. So my idea that the 'reserve' part of the website works is not the case due to their stock levels not being live!!

I guess it will have to be the 6P!



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Sorry, hadn't seen the previous comments as was I typing. I'll have a good look later.

Thanks again.


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i found with Go that i had to ring the branches personally and speak to someone there and ask them to physically go and check that whatever i wanted was actually there in front of them and then ask them to put it aside with my name ( and it goes into a locked cage ).

the online reserve is a bit hit and miss ( unlike the argos system which i found worked every time ).


dont panic into buying a tent though! - just because the montana lake is out of stock - there will be other retailers selling them too.
and as you asked yourself - perhaps you ought to consider the alternatives and take it slowly to make sure you get the right tent for your needs.

otherwise you end up doing what lots of us do - go and buy another one next year that you prefer!

theres quite a few outwell polycottons on ebay from outwell if you type in outwell lake ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/bear-lake-6-Tent-with-Foot-Print-And-Carpet-And-Extras-NO-RESERVE-/150881501838?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_HikingCamping_Tents_JN&hash=item23213d028e#ht_500wt_949

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OUTWELL-BEAR-LAKE-6-POLYCOTTON-TENT-COMPLETE-WITH-FOOTPRINT-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-/261085719768?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_HikingCamping_Tents_JN&hash=item3cc9ebecd8#ht_500wt_949

so if you dont mind a used tent in great condition by choosing carefully - theres quite a few around and likely to be more as the season closes and some families who have tried camping didnt get on with it and sell up!.

good luck with whichever tent you choose!


24/8/2012 at 10:01pm
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Hi,
We have had our montana 4 years now and its been a great tent, downside they are really hot when weather is good. so we have just upgraded to the yellowstone falls got a great deal a grand for the full package. my advice is just keep checking on the internet there are some bargains out there.


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Thanks for all your comments, I appreciate the time you have taken to help me out and your comments have helped clarify my ideas and although the monty 6P can be had for £307 I am going to aim for a polycotton / cotton / canvas. No doubt I will end up having to get a tow bar fitted and a trailer bought!!!



27/8/2012 at 12:09pm
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Kamp Frinton 4 classic on Ebay for £349 including carpet and footprint by camperite. Might be worth contacting them direct to see if they will do it any cheaper?



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