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Hiya,

We had the old style xxl iiii, just the standard variety and it was brilliant. We had it as a weekend / short stay tent to save us from using the bigger polycotton all the time. I ended up being as fond of the Quechu as the Outwell.

The xxl iiii got a tear in it after a couple of year's use. I wasn't bothered because I'd only paid 90 quid brand new from Decathlon in a sale.

So this year we bought a new one of the new layout but the illumin fresh version difference of (I think) £135 for the standard model, £200 for the illumin, so £65. Both versions are a bit wider and the headroom's a bit higher than the older layout.

To be honest, I shared your concerns so we trialled it the other weekend and it got a good test because it poured with rain all weekend and we even had a thunderstorm - not a single leak.

I take the points about paying the extra for the lights but we like them, it's a bit of a novelty. We didn't get to try the rollback roof because of the weather so still looking forward to that! Apparently, the illumin is made of a material that keeps the tent cooler - can't comment on that either yet.

The tent is white so might get dirty - it certainly picked up a bit of mud on it's first trip.

Hope this helsp - if you get one, let us know what you think.

Cheers,

Marc

Quote: Originally posted by IDDC on 04/7/2014

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Thanks Campernic, I agree that a couple of head torches aren't worth £80 and we do have head torches already :-) - as well as some serious re-chargeable lighting - but it all gets a bit bulky when you just want to take a boat round to a secluded bay & wild camp for the night on the beach.

it also appears to have a different/complex ventilation system & you can open the whole roof up "for stargazing while in bed" however I'm thinking, the more zips & flaps, the more chance of drips & leaks, but it might stop the condensation problem???

I see you have Quechua tents, what do you think about them generally?

Cheers again :-)

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