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Subject Topic: Cabanon Barbados, Obelink Alaska, or...? Post Reply Post New Topic
15/7/2014 at 4:27pm
 Location: Devon
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I'm looking for a new tent after selling our Cabanon Biscaya 370. The Biscaya was great, but the three large, heavy packs took up too much space and were too unwieldy for short trips, meaning it went mostly unused.

I currently have a Hypercamp Eldorado which is a fine little tent, but just a tad too small for the three of us (2 adults and one 3-year-old). I would also love to have a SIG/ZIG again like the Biscaya.

I'm keen on the cotton pyramid tents, so have been looking at the Cabanon Barbados as a possible upgrade. However, the Obelink/Hypercamp Alaska also looks good, being half the price and bigger than the Barbados. However, the weight (10kg more than the Barbados) and pack size are a bit off-putting... and will I be happy with the quality compared to Cabanon?

Does anyone have experience of how the Alaska really compares with the Barbados in terms of size, weight and quality? And there any other options that I'm missing? What I need is a quality tent (preferably cotton) that is quick to erect and manageable without needing a trailer! We'll be using it for weekends and the occasional longer (1-2 week) holiday.

Thanks!


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15/7/2014 at 5:20pm
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I think you'll be disappointed. I have seen good reviews on here for the Obelink tents and the prices are outstanding, but that great price comes at a er, price! It won't be Cabanon quality. From what I remember, the niggles concerned the details - hooks, zips, sewing finish etc., etc.

Equally, aren't you just getting back to the Biscaya weight??? Might as well keep the Biscaya!

As to other recommendations, we have just bought a Karsten 3600 tunnel tent. A breeze to put up, it is an absolutely fabulous tent, one of amazing, second to none (more or less) quality. It comes in two sizes, a 3.6m wide one and a 2.9m one. Unfortunately the 3600 does up the weight again (not to mention price!) and the 2800 might be a tad too small for your needs. Still, if it a quality all-cotton tent you want, they are worth considering.

Another option would be De Waard, who make a tent similar to the Barbados called the Albatross. Again, this will give you the quality, but De Waard are, I think, even more expensive than Karsten tunnel tents. Yikes!



15/7/2014 at 9:03pm
 Location: Devon
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Thanks, Kang. I think you're right about the weight of the Alaska - it's about the same as the Biscaya, and comes in two bags.

I've had no problems with the quality of my Eldorado so far, although the finishing is not up to Cabanon standards. However, I can afford the Barbados (just about!) so at the moment I'm leaning towards the Cabanon.

I just took a look at the De Waards and the Albatros is the same size and weight as the Obelink Alaska - it looks like the Alaska is basically a copy of it. The De Waard Lepelaar seems to be closer to the Barbados in size, but at EUR1699 + EUR499 for the inner tent it's out of my budget.

The Karsten tunnel tents look nice. Are they available in the UK, and what are the prices like if you don't mind me asking?!

Esvo do the Bedouin 340 which again is similar in size to the Barbados, and similar in price, but heavier.

Any other suggestions welcome!


15/7/2014 at 9:21pm
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Camping Travel Store is the only UK-based Karsten dealership, I think. James there is very helpful and friendly.

Circumstances dictated that I bought mine direct from Karsten. They are easy to deal with and gave me a 5% discount because I couldn't easily take advantage of their 10% of tent price to spend instore.

The price of the 2800 is 1799 euros which currently is about £1400. Extra side door is more as is rain canopy. Inner tent is included. Not sure side door is absolutely necessary, but rain awning is. 3600 is obviously more.

I have to say, it was a stretch for us, but we are delighted we did it. Looked after, it will undoubtedly be a tent for life.



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15/7/2014 at 10:47pm
 Location: Devizes Wiltshire
 Outfit: MWB VW Crafter PVC
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One needs to appreciate that Hypercamp/Obelink canvas tents are good value for money for the budget conscious.

The finishing and the materials may not be as good as the likes of Cabanon, De Waard and ESVO etc., however, their build quality is pretty decent.

My Hypercamp Escala 4 had very minor niggles from Day 1, however, that's what I had expected, as I was not expecting to get champagne when I paid beer money for it.

The Bedouin 340 has an advantage over Cabanon Barbados in that it has less number of pegging points, which should make setting up easier. I was considering this tent to replace my Escala 4, however, I decided to plunge for a good quality inflatable instead.

The Bedouin 340 also wins over the Barbados due to its styling as the scallop edge is very striking. Also, the front porch is slightly deeper than the Barbados.

I have not seen an ESVO in real life, however, they are supposed to be up there with Cabanon and De Waard.

When I was looking for a storm resistant tent to replace my Khyam Freelander that was destroyed in the wind in Sep 2011, I could only afford to get a Hypercamp Escala 4 as my budget could not stretch to a Cabanon Barbados or a ESVO.

Have a look at the thread I started back in 2011: Cabanon vs Hypercamp

My Escala 4 had served me well for 3 good seasons and I have no complain except for the number of pegging points which makes setting up and packing a chore as I am not getting any younger.

Good luck with your new tent, whatever you decide to get in the end.

DK

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15/7/2014 at 11:09pm
 Location: Devon
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Thanks, DK. So many choices! The Bedouin is indeed very striking.


16/7/2014 at 12:49am
 Location: Near Petersfield Hants
 Outfit:  Barbados- Djakarta- Anssems trailer
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I have a Barbados and a Hypercamp Djakarta, which the kids use. Yes, the stitching is a little dodgy on the Djakarta but we still love it. The Barbados is a great quality tent but will take quite a lot of space in the back of the car if using the inner tent and a carpet like we do. The only fault with the Barbados is the inner tent wastes far too much space so I don't bother using it in mid summer when its warm. I can easily put it up solo and love the speed and simplicity of it. The size is perfect for three and it looks great pitched. The older non-SIG pryamide Cabanons come up on ebay from time to time which will cost a lot less.

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16/7/2014 at 7:23am
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Quote: Originally posted by No Faff on 16/7/2014
I have a Barbados and a Hypercamp Djakarta, which the kids use. Yes, the stitching is a little dodgy on the Djakarta but we still love it. The Barbados is a great quality tent but will take quite a lot of space in the back of the car if using the inner tent and a carpet like we do. The only fault with the Barbados is the inner tent wastes far too much space so I don't bother using it in mid summer when its warm. I can easily put it up solo and love the speed and simplicity of it. The size is perfect for three and it looks great pitched. The older non-SIG pryamide Cabanons come up on ebay from time to time which will cost a lot less.



Thanks. What is the approximate pack size of the Barbados?


18/7/2014 at 8:07am
 Location: Near Petersfield Hants
 Outfit:  Barbados- Djakarta- Anssems trailer
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I'll measure it for you when I get back from work this afternoon. I keep the carpet and the inner in the tent and roll the whole lot up to save time unless its damp. I also bought an Isabella awning bag which has been a real godsend - the whole lot easily fits in and you get carry handles on the zipped bag too.

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18/7/2014 at 9:04pm
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Hi, back again. I've measured the Barbados for pack size. Mine, including the tent carpet and inner tent is approx 36" long x 12" high x 20" deep. I always fold the Barbados starting with both sides folded in to the centre of the tent then in half again then its rolled up from the back of the tent to tge front- this keeps the underneath of the SIG away from the canvas. Hope this helps.

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18/7/2014 at 9:44pm
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Thanks nofaff, that's useful to know. So that's about the same length as the Eldorado pack, but about twice as fat. I think I can handle that!


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12/8/2015 at 5:46pm
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We have a. Barbados and it is a a wonderful tent. Love the ease of erecting ad it looks great. We use the inner bedroom, but i can see why you wouldn't need too. We bougt ours second hand at a great price only used a couple of times, so well worth looking out for them. We also have the side panels which make a really nice porche.


12/8/2015 at 5:49pm
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Oops sorry really old thread!!! Didn't realise sorry the op has probably bought their tent a long time ago!


12/8/2015 at 11:32pm
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Quote: Originally posted by spideygirl on 12/8/2015We have a. Barbados and it is a a wonderful tent. Love the ease of erecting ad it looks great. We use the inner bedroom, but i can see why you wouldn't need too. We bougt ours second hand at a great price only used a couple of times, so well worth looking out for them. We also have the side panels which make a really nice porche.



Your Barbados is a great tent which is easy to pitch, and the quality is better than Hypercamp/Obelink tents.


12/8/2015 at 11:39pm
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The side panels are a bit of a faff though and I'm not impressed with the optional sun canopy. Now, if only Cabanon did a zip-on canopy and side panels, plus low-level vents and a mesh door panel...



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