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04/8/2014 at 11:23am
Location: Derby.
Outfit: Karsten 350+Awnings
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Quote: Originally posted by slummum on 04/8/2014
... I tried tying the guys to the tent, which gave us the height but then a gust of wind ripped a loop off the tent....
If I put it up with four poles will it be very wobbly?
So it was the tent that gave way, not the tarp?
If you must connect to the tent, I would steer clear of material connections, and (personally) even fibre-glass/flexi poles? (You may even be lucky that it only ripped a loop off, and not took a chunk out of the fly-sheet itself!!)
If you have alloy/steel (tent) poles though, you should be okay... in fact I do this on a regular basis:
By far the weakest point there is my knot in the guy that's wrapped around the pole, to secure the Karabiner... but they haven't failed me yet!! Connect to the poles, not the tent!
Even this set up only connects to the tent poles, not the tent itself (plus additional tarp pole(s), of course)...
You can "hug" the tent structure/material... just don't risk physically connecting to it*...thus...
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(* Clipping C clips on, to hold tarp to tent pole/sleeve is ok, if it's needed, but even then, under tension, they may flirt off, so should only be used to stop flapping... The tarp should be structured in such a way that it still wouldn't come down, should the C clips fly off!)
As for number of poles, that's immaterial... it's how securely they are guyed. Main ones, are ideally best with two guys, like so...
The rest can be single guys, (whether direct to ground or on poles (both can be seen in the above picture), as they are all effectively pulling against one another.
If and when you do need to get additional poles, I can highly recommend the one's linked to by Hacksaw Bob further up the page. Decent price, and cover any height from 1.14m to 2.13m. I think I have 8, now!!
I would say, just two of those, with the two shorter ones you already have, will get you a long way towards having an excellent set up, at a decent height.
Next week.... Ridge lines!!! 
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