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Subject Topic: Anyone who has a Gelert Cabana 2... help! Post Reply Post New Topic
23/5/2015 at 5:02pm
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Hi, newbie here. :)

I got a great deal on this tent (new), but disappointed when it arrived, to find it is clearly a return from a previous customer: packed very messily back into the bag, dried mud and grass, scuffed groundsheet, etc. I've told the shop that if there's any damage I want a replacement, and if there is none a partial refund. I was hoping to pitch it and hose-test it today but have run out of time because I can't put the door poles together!

My questions is: should the door poles have pointy ends? The (inadequate) diagram shows only one pointy end on each, but these are pointy both ends. I'm wondering if someone adapted them before deciding to return the tent.

(Out of interest, why do some poles have elastic running through, keeping the sections strung together like a necklace when separated, and others not? This central pole has the elastic but the door poles don't.)

Also, is there a hole for the pointy bit to go through? The central hole has rubbery "feet" top and bottom where it presses against the fly and groundsheet. The door poles have these pointy ends, but where they locate is no more reinforced than the centre.

The only instructions are diagrams (no words) on a label attached to the bag. Should there be something else too, a leaflet maybe? I found helpful instructions in a member's review on this website - thank you Diwlsn :) - or wouldn't have known where to begin.

Anyone familiar with this tent, many thanks!


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23/5/2015 at 5:56pm
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I have the Gelert Cabana 4 although it is a while since I pitched it, from memory I think the pointy ends go through eyelets just outside the door...



23/5/2015 at 7:03pm
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Thanks for replying, Campernic. I'll have to dig it out again tomorrow and see if I can find the eyelets - if they exist. There wouldn't be eyelets in the groundsheet though, would there?

(The description says "Fully sewn in groundsheet to keep out unwanted bugs and drafts" which wouldn't be true if it had eyelets in, would it?)

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24/5/2015 at 6:04am
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I suspect the upright poles with spikes go in the small front porch/canopy area, not inside the tent. Look for the eyelets and all should become clear.

It's not unusual for a tent to just have a sewn-in label instruction and this tent has only 3 poles, so it sounds a bit like you've just misunderstood where to position the front ones. A quick Google of Gelert Cabana images should illustrate, if still in doubt, or there's a YouTube clip of the Cabana 4 (which I'm guessing is same principle).

One question, if you believe you've received a used tent (dried mud, grass and scuffed groundsheet), why not insist that the retailer replaces it with a new one? Otherwise, the message you are sending that retailer is that they can get away with it, surely?


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24/5/2015 at 7:28am
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Return it and get your money back.

There are too many uncertainties with this product.

You've wasted too much time on it already.



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24/5/2015 at 10:21am
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OK, two questions to answer. :)

I can't have another look till later, but I'll check whether I'm putting the door poles in the wrong place. Where the central pole goes, there are reinforced places top and bottom. Where I was doing the door pole, there were similar but I'll sit down without the tent "half up" and have a real look for eyelets at the top. I'm beginning to think the eyelets are on the outside, and I was looking at the inside.

At the ground, I now see that they go outside the area of the groundsheet anyway. (D'oh, as Homer Simpson would say.)

In my defence, the diagrams don't show this as clearly as the tiny black n white photo which I wasn't looking at because I'd seen better photos online! The diagram shows one rectangle with three circles, indicating the groundsheet and where to put the poles. All three circles ARE within the rectangle.

There's nothing about putting the top ends of the poles anywhere. The second diagram shows the tent already up, and is about the tent pegs, and the next tells you to tighten the guys. That's it, except one that seems only to be saying that there are some spare pegs.

As for the refund question - this was their last in stock. It was reduced because discontinued, and then I had a discount, which together brought it to £20-40 less than I can find anywhere else online. This is a BIG difference on my budget. I thought I'd ask for 50% of what I paid, as being a fair price for an "as new" used tent minus a bit more for having a complaint about it. Obviously if there's actual damage I'll want a full refund but I don't know yet. (There was also a delivery problem, not their fault but the courier's, and a typo in my email address, so I'm already a customer they really don't want to p. off any more. ;)) They can only be contacted Mon-Fri and weren't answering late on Friday, so I tried here first.

Since this problem, they tell me they have a few new stock in a different colour - and in fact the colour I've got is the one I least liked but I had no choice. So I'm thinking I'll graciously allow them to replace this with one of the nicer colour to keep me happy. :D And then probably never buy from them again!

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24/5/2015 at 1:58pm
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where did you get this from? yeomans and campingworld both have them in stock and are £99

as for them sending out a "used" tent, well tell them to take it back and either refund you or you will only pay for a secondhand 2 berth tent price!


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24/5/2015 at 2:07pm
 Location: Button Moon
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sorry double posted


24/5/2015 at 2:09pm
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Cabana 4 pics

I had a cabana 4 and posted some pics on this thread which may help. The double ended spike poles, one end goes in an eyelet in the bottom corner of the entrance and the top spike goes in an eyelet at the top, the poles go outside of the tent.

Use a hairspray cap on top of the centre pole just to prevent the little top hat breaking and piercing the top of the tent.


24/5/2015 at 2:25pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Rhj296 on 24/5/2015Return it and get your money back.

There are too many uncertainties with this product.

You've wasted too much time on it already.





Completely agree with this. Someone has returned it for a reason!

Also wanted to say if you do keep it check it carefully, I had the cabana 4 it last 3 days before it started to fall to pieces. The strap by the door that the pole goes into the stitching came undone, & I ended up having to pack the tent up. I was very lucky that I was holidaying with my sister & her family so could stay with them. When this happened it was summer with lovely weather, no wind or rain & camped in a secluded spot.



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24/5/2015 at 4:21pm
 Location: Northern Ireland
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I have to say I like my Gelert Cabana 4. I got it for silly money from Sports Direct and it's discontinued so I know I'll not get it again.

I was bothered by the lack of windows.

I've since got a Bell Tent, but it's far too heavy for our local family friendly festival as the car is quite a trek to the campsite. So I plan to use the Cabana this year and if the weather is good I'll use it without the inner as I'm now used with the open feel of the Bell Tent.

My Bell Tent is polycotton and has two windows in the slope which I love. I would seriously consider getting two windows put in the Cabana if I had a bit more confidence in my sewing ability.

I have the black swirly design.

What design does everyone else have?

Jayens photos in the linked thread clearly show the door poles are on the outide of the tent.


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24/5/2015 at 8:05pm
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Finally had another go today, with brain switched on, and now feeling like an idiot. Nice and obvious, and easy.

Quote: Originally posted by Jayen on 24/5/2015Cabana 4 picsI had a cabana 4 and posted some pics on this thread which may help. The double ended spike poles, one end goes in an eyelet in the bottom corner of the entrance and the top spike goes in an eyelet at the top, the poles go outside of the tent.

Use a hairspray cap on top of the centre pole just to prevent the little top hat breaking and piercing the top of the tent.


Do you think the black rubbery hat will break? Looked ok to me, though I've never before experienced a central pole that didn't somehow attach to the spot it was supposed to stay in.

Great pics, best (clearest) I've seen anywhere! I love your red theme. ;) I will be disappointed if I have to go for a different tent after all, I like the idea of being the crazy woman in the circus tent.

ETA: I saw you asked where to hang a lamp - I'm sure you know by now, but there's a hook on the central pole for this purpose. Read that somewhere. :)

Thanks stace75 - I read that problem in a review of the Cabana 4, but at the time thought the Cabana 2 didn't have the same design. Looks like it does though. Otherwise the reviews I've seen have been so good! I have to admit the zips don't feel quality, but it isn't expensive after all.

Campernic - how about a fold-up wheelbarrow for the trek instead of carrying the tent? I know someone who uses an ancient pram frame for this purpose.

The "black swirly" is I think the one called Wave Dimension, which I have. Looks black n white in all the photos, but the white is in fact pinkish - the website (seller, not Gelert) called it brown. There's Apricot which looks yellow/gold with grey - and the one I'd love to get is purply and very hipster! but there don't seem to be any of that available.

Anyway, to conclude. I am feeling I've wasted too much time but saving money is worth a certain amount of trouble, if it ends well. Last year I got burnt by a terrible eBay seller, described as New (or maybe As New) but damaged in several places, had even been taped up! If this one isn't Mr Right Tent for me, third time lucky I suppose.

I'm going to tell them that I want them to replace this with an Apricot one, ensuring it is brand new. If they screw that up too I'll have to pay more somewhere else or find a different tent. I have bad hands and if I'm to camp independent of anyone's help, I need to avoid threading poles through fabric tubes; I was delighted to find this one very doable, when I saw how the poles went together I thought I wouldn't manage them but they were ok. Camping alone is a definite plan and just needs Making Happen.

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24/5/2015 at 11:50pm
 Location: Northern Ireland
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Muddlemand I hope you get this tent sorted out for you. If you don't you can get a bell tent in Polyester although I believe the condensation inside can be a problem. Google '10 T' for a brown coloured one on amazon. Grand Canyon do one as well (amazon uk) and there's another grey one with yellow edges too.

I got a Polycotton Bell Tent but it is a ton weight (even with a trolly) I can just about lift it out of the boot of the car. And although I can roll it up when I'm packing away again, I really need a second person to help me fold it neatly enough to get it in the bag because the groundsheet is so thick.

The only thing is that a single poled tent like my Bell takes 8 to 10 minutes to put up.

An old fashioned ridge tent may be good for you too. I have an old Lichfield Challenger which is small but perfectly formed. There is enough room, just about, for two to sit in the porch. It's got four upright poles. Two in the door like the cabana, a tall one in the middle and then the one at the back is the same height as the two door poles.

The Lichfield Challenger 5's come up quite often on ebay and not expensive either, even though they are collectible now.




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