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PersonAngels at 11
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Hello, our guide unit has a Quetchua 4.2 pop up tent that is no longer beading and we are worried will leak. We are considering reproofing it but, I'm sure I read somewhere that the reproofing liquid can dissolve seam tape. I spoke to someone at a local camping shop who suggested NicWax as it is water rather chemical based but I think you need to tumble dry coats etc after application to activate it and can't fit a big pop up in the dryer. Any advice, information or suggestions you can give us would be greatly appreciated, Thanks

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Fabsil trashed my seam tape. Warns against it on the tin.


PersonAngels at 11
09/9/2015 at 9:27pm
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Thanks Dubstepper, we won't use that then!

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PersonHacksaw Bob
09/9/2015 at 10:14pm
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That's the first I've heard of having to tumble dry a Nikwax-treated tent?


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PersonAngels at 11
09/9/2015 at 10:20pm
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I've only ever used Nikwax on waterproof coats before and it says to tumble dry them. Nikwax for tents may be different but I've never seen it and would have to order it online. It would then be too late if it does say tumble dry. I was hoping someone on here would know.

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Fabsil should be applied on the outside of tents so shouldn't touch the seam tape which is applied inside tents, but if you are concerned don't spray the seams.


PersonAngels at 11
09/9/2015 at 10:46pm
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Hi Bob61, wouldn't it soak though?

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PersonHacksaw Bob
09/9/2015 at 10:49pm
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Equipment treated with the product in the link, according to the application instructions, "needs no heat to develop Durable Water Repellency. DWR and ultraviolet (UV) protection will develop once the fabric is dry. Allow item(s) to dry fully before packing away."


PersonAngels at 11
09/9/2015 at 11:02pm
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Thanks, Hacksaw Bob. I assume that's from the instructions for Nikwax?

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PersonHacksaw Bob
09/9/2015 at 11:17pm
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Yes, Tent & Gear SolarProof®, as in the above link. Look on Apply by Hand.

(While you're on their website check out the free samples offer for entering their WebQuiz. You can have as many attempts as you like if you don't get the right answers first time, and win a small product sample every couple of months!)


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PersonAngels at 11
09/9/2015 at 11:22pm
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Thanks Hacksay Bob. I am feeling much happier about it now. I will check out the website and the free samples!

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Great find Bob! I use a load of their stuff but hadn't seen that before. The big tents out again soon so will give it a going over. It's the UV protection I want. The proofing is solid. The longer it lasts the better as I'm struggling to find owt I'd consider replacing it with.


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Quote: Originally posted by Angels at 11 on 09/9/2015
Hi Bob61, wouldn't it soak though?


Hopefully not, otherwise so will rain.

I believe your tent is polyester. Polyester is waterproofed with a laminate of Polyurethane on the inside so although the outside will look wet and the rain will stop beading on the surface if the outer silicon layer has worn off, the tent fabric itself should not actually leak. The outer spray, whether you use Fabsil or Nikwax is simply an agent which makes water bead and run off easily thus not soaking into the outer layer of polyester.

The seams are sealed using thermobonded tape (heat applied).

Post last edited on 10/09/2015 11:20:12


PersonAngels at 11
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Thanks Bob61, So if I understand what you say, the fact that it's not beading and soaking into the fabric isn't a problem and it shouldn't leak but may take longer to dry. So as long as we are prepared to wait for it to dry properly we don't actually have to spend any of the girls money on it!

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Yes, Bob61 is right, the inner layer of PU coating is what makes a polyester or nylon tent waterproof. Once that peels off then there is nothing to remedy it. Spraying the outside with Fabsil or nil wax just stops rain from soaking into the outer woven layer.


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Quote: Originally posted by Angels at 11 on 10/9/2015Thanks Bob61, So if I understand what you say, the fact that it's not beading and soaking into the fabric isn't a problem and it shouldn't leak but may take longer to dry. So as long as we are prepared to wait for it to dry properly we don't actually have to spend any of the girls money on it!


Exactly...however, modern sprays are also supposed to contain UV protection which will help the tent fabric last a little longer.

It's really a case of whether you want your tent to look like new again or can put up with it looking like a sagging wet rag when it rains.

A little while ago I bought an ex display tent which had clearly seen better days. I sprayed it with Fabsil and it looked like new again when it rained. It was a big 6 man tent and took 3 x 600ml cans of Fabsil costing about £7.99 each. Since I paid peanuts for the tent I thought it was worth it. You may feel the Quetchua 4.2 pop up, which is a nice tent, is worth a couple of cans




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