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Subject Topic: My New ESVO Bedouin 340
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28/3/2016 at 7:13pm
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Quote: Originally posted by johnwils on 28/3/2016
Dk 168 doesn't have a De Waard tent like the one in your picture above lidds0, she as an Esvo Bedouin tent.



Don't all the vario canopies for pyramid tents work on the same principal? I thought it was their flexible arrangement options which contributed to their name? I was under the impression they could have the front lowered in poor weather, instead of removing them completely?


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28/3/2016 at 7:18pm
 Location: Leicestershire
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Lidds
The Karsten vario awning works like the De Waard one in your diagram too, not sure about the ESVO's as not to familiar with them.


29/3/2016 at 1:07am
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Yes, the Vario for my Bedouin 340 is flexible, and I can drop the front to the lowered/storm position.

However, IMHO, it would be unwise to camp during such high winds as experienced on Friday night/Saturday, let alone keeping a Vario awning up!

The ground was very soft, and even Deltas showed signs of lifting. Hence I double/triple-pegged on some of the guying points.

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29/3/2016 at 6:56am
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I've had a 3m by 3m tarp rip Delta's out in high wind. It was bad judgement to pitch the tarp at that time but fortunately the small tent next to it was solid held down by MSR Groundhogs & our weight. Delta's are useful to have in the peg armoury but not a talisman especially with large surface areas of fabric.


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29/3/2016 at 9:43am
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Deltas can be lifted if the ground is very soft and soggy, as discovered during past camping trips.
IMHO, when Deltas start to lift, it is probably time to call it a day and go home.

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29/3/2016 at 10:31am
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Ok, Sorry I didn't know that the front of your Bedouin was the same as the De Waard.

Sounds like you made the right decision to come home though

Helen


29/3/2016 at 11:53am
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To be honest, I do not know for certain how a Vario awning is attached to a De Waard.

I can only speak for my Bedouin 340, and the Vario is attached to the front of the tent via 3 separate zips.

The sides can be rolled up, as seen in the pic I posted.

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29/3/2016 at 4:00pm
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James from CTS rang me to arrange for the tent to be repaired by ESVO, quick as a flash and found ways to minimise the cost, can't praise CTS enough, THANK YOU!

DK

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29/3/2016 at 10:09pm
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Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 29/3/2016
James from CTS rang me to arrange for the tent to be repaired by ESVO, quick as a flash and found ways to minimise the cost, can't praise CTS enough, THANK YOU!

DK







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30/3/2016 at 2:02pm
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Good news! What are your other thoughts on the tent DK?


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30/3/2016 at 6:10pm
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It definitely takes less efforts to erect compared with the Hypercamp Escala 4.

It is better built, nicer quality canvas, bigger, and it is overall, a nicer tent.

DK

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30/3/2016 at 8:48pm
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Quote: Originally posted by dk168 on 29/3/2016
James from CTS rang me to arrange for the tent to be repaired by ESVO, quick as a flash and found ways to minimise the cost, can't praise CTS enough, THANK YOU!

DK



What excellent service
can't wait until i can buy my karsten


03/4/2016 at 1:30pm
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Admin: Tent review submitted.

More pics from the trip.

Interior Set Up:


Tent Organisers:


Interior Light:


Damage To Tent:


DK

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09/4/2016 at 11:06pm
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After the hurried pack up, I just bundled and pushed the tent into the back of my car (I went home first to empty the car of provisions etc.), and the bulk of the tent was a major concern as it was not easy to carry.

Dragged it into the house using the cheapo tarp for protection, so that it could dry in the lounge.

I bought some compression straps and managed to reduce the bulk considerably. The straps make it easier for the packed tent to be carried too.

I cannot put the tent back into its bag, not easy when it is a tube that opens at one end with drawstring.

I have ordered a custom bag from Bags For Everything, that is bigger, rectangular with a zip at the top and handles. Hopefully, it should make packing up the tent easier.

Off to CTS tomorrow with the tent so that James can arrange for it to be picked up by the folks from Karsten to take it to ESVO for repair.

Next job - tidy the garage so that I can dry the tent in there if and when required.

DK





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* Treat life events like a dog: If you can't eat it, play with it, or hump it, p1$$ on it and walk away! *


10/4/2016 at 12:23am
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DK, it's no worse than you've had with the Escala; just cost more.

With James and ESVO on your side I'm sure all will be fine.

In the meantime good luck with clearing out the garage.



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