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Subject Topic: Simplifying camping:Canvas to Polyester?
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18/6/2016 at 7:10am
 Location: Herts
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Quote: Originally posted by keai7 on 16/6/2016
Appreciate some good points and recommendations made above.

I read this thread regarding polycotton/canvas dries faster than polyester and am convinced that I have to stick to polycotton/canvas despite it being painful to dry post trip. http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/chatter/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=32&TopicID=200649

My thoughts are now:

- An inflatable polycotton with canopy. The inflatable will make post trip drying more bearable (I hope). With a canopy, I don't have to fiddle with a tarp (have a kick ass Tatonka) and save set up time. Point on canopy: unfortunately, I am not one who can sit under a blazing sun like some happy chaps...would also solve my concern about wet furniture from morning dew.

I am feeling silly for deciding to have a canopy when I started this thread looking for a smaller more manageable weekend tent. Looks like I might end up with a BIG tent after all the thoughts and research. Inflatable+polycotton+canopy....so much for downsizing! sigh...

Jim1977: ESVO would be very similar to my Bell. I am resting my thoughts on your inflatable recommendation.

Kirsty12: Interesting that you brought up the Concorde. I thought the specs were great. What was the difficult part of the tent for you since it is an inflatable polycotton? Is it the weight,number of pegs,etc? I am somewhat mindful that Outwell is not getting good reviews on their inflatables.

Spiritburner: Can you give an example of a 2 skin tent model? Maybe I can look up a 2nd hand tent.

The big question now: Which tent? People say there is little difference putting up a 6 berth compared to a 4 berth if it is an inflatable. Should I do 4 berth or 5/6 berth?


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18/6/2016 at 7:40am
 Location: Herts
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Yes it's just the sheer size and weight of it that we find difficult. I can't just pack the car whilst my husband is at work. We need the top box on just for a weekend. We had a big old Airbeam before so I was expecting it to be roughly the same size packed as its a smaller but only slightly heavier tent.

It's very quick and easy to put up (when the pump works) and is a fabulous tent, the quality is pretty good. I even went round it searching for dodgy stitching, wonky beams, weird zips couldn't fault it. It's a perfect size for us, plenty of room to sit inside and for my 6 year old to play. My only gripe really is the door is a little over engineered if anything, takes awhile to get out in the morning!. And it takes a little messing about with zipping the groundsheet on to the door. No doubt I'll get used to that.

Regards to Outwell quality, can't say I heard many complaints from 2016 tents yet. Vango seem to be bearing the brunt of that this year. I think they've improved on their technology this year. The beams certainly seems to be well incased and supported There's no escaping the fact they are mass produced tents and some bad ones will slip through the net. I'm hoping A little more time would have been spent on their polycotton tents in the manufacturing process as they don't sell as many, might only be a pipe dream though!.

All in all I love this tent, very happy and proud of it and it will last our camping days out now. Just need a smaller polyester for quick weekends.



18/6/2016 at 7:32pm
 Location: Spain
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I call my setup "camping ready": the minimum effort possible to go camping and to pack back :

Of course inflatable poliester tent: vango solaris 600 with porch for cooking. 20 kg an not very big bag.

Camping Chuck box for all the cooking set, and doubles as a cooking table.

Table with stools.

SIM to no effort bed ready.

Porta potti.

No fridge: meal ready to eat. Mostly preserves, no cold yogurts, 1/2 l milk. I apply to camping some survival YouTube videos.

I have everything prepared at home and fits my car.

At the camping I pack in less than two hours, whasing the dishes and empty de porta potti included.

You can see my set on http://snowskiguru.com/post/vango-solaris-600-review-en-espanol


23/6/2016 at 2:00pm
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Quote: You can see my set on http://snowskiguru.com/post/vango-solaris-600-review-en-espanol



Wish I can read spanish. It looks like an interesting write up and showed many tents I have been eyeing!



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24/6/2016 at 5:59am
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Quote: Originally posted by kirsty12 on 15/6/2016
We downsized in tent size (polyester) and bought an Outwell Polycotton Concorde 5SATC. I thought it would be perfect as a weekender in the UK and fine for longer stays in France. Now we've got it, it's hard work for a weekend. Weighs in at 41Kg. Next year we're going to go back to polyester for weekends and use the polycotton for summer/longer stays. I adore the polycotton, will never go back to polyester for anything longer than 3 nights though. It's just not as quick and easy I'd of hoped it would be and the stress of drying it out just for two nights is putting me off using it.



I'll bet your airbeams take longer to inflate and require as much effort as the OP's single-poled bell and both cotton and polycotton have to be pegged out, especially to dry after a wet pack-up.

I don't think there's any high quality family tent which can offer speed and ease of pitching, easy care/quick drying, small pack size and weight. That's why we all end up with more than one tent or else change them so frequently, in search of camping Nirvana!


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05/7/2016 at 6:01pm
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Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 24/6/2016
Quote: Originally posted by kirsty12 on 15/6/2016
We downsized in tent size (polyester) and bought an Outwell Polycotton Concorde 5SATC. I thought it would be perfect as a weekender in the UK and fine for longer stays in France. Now we've got it, it's hard work for a weekend. Weighs in at 41Kg. Next year we're going to go back to polyester for weekends and use the polycotton for summer/longer stays. I adore the polycotton, will never go back to polyester for anything longer than 3 nights though. It's just not as quick and easy I'd of hoped it would be and the stress of drying it out just for two nights is putting me off using it.



I'll bet your airbeams take longer to inflate and require as much effort as the OP's single-poled bell and both cotton and polycotton have to be pegged out, especially to dry after a wet pack-up.

I don't think there's any high quality family tent which can offer speed and ease of pitching, easy care/quick drying, small pack size and weight. That's why we all end up with more than one tent or else change them so frequently, in search of camping Nirvana!




IT'S A NIGHTMARE!!! still cannot find my perfect weekend tent It doesn't exist


05/7/2016 at 7:25pm
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For me the perfect weekend tent is the Terranova laserspace 5 if you want to stand up and camp below the snow line. If you can handle not standing and want something bombproof then the Hilleberg Sataris is hard to beat.


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05/7/2016 at 9:37pm
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Quote: Originally posted by keai7 on 05/7/2016
Quote: Originally posted by lidds0 on 24/6/2016
Quote: Originally posted by kirsty12 on 15/6/2016
We downsized in tent size (polyester) and bought an Outwell Polycotton Concorde 5SATC. I thought it would be perfect as a weekender in the UK and fine for longer stays in France. Now we've got it, it's hard work for a weekend. Weighs in at 41Kg. Next year we're going to go back to polyester for weekends and use the polycotton for summer/longer stays. I adore the polycotton, will never go back to polyester for anything longer than 3 nights though. It's just not as quick and easy I'd of hoped it would be and the stress of drying it out just for two nights is putting me off using it.



I'll bet your airbeams take longer to inflate and require as much effort as the OP's single-poled bell and both cotton and polycotton have to be pegged out, especially to dry after a wet pack-up.

I don't think there's any high quality family tent which can offer speed and ease of pitching, easy care/quick drying, small pack size and weight. That's why we all end up with more than one tent or else change them so frequently, in search of camping Nirvana!




IT'S A NIGHTMARE!!! still cannot find my perfect weekend tent It doesn't exist



Basically, camping with young children is hard work (and lets face it's doubly tough with young twins). We went camping for a weekend when our girls were toddlers and didn't try again until they were a bit older! If you want a super relaxing weekend break why not try glamping in pre-erected tents or camping pods. You can save your tent for longer breaks and use it on shorter breaks when your children are older.

It does get easier as they get older - ours even help with pitching the tent these days !



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