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Personzyggi10
19/9/2016 at 12:35pm
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I'm soon to buy my 1st air-tent as messing about with heavy steel poles is getting a little beyond me. I note that some manufacturers put "isolation valves" on their single tube tents, while it seems others do not. I assume this means that, should there be a puncture then the whole tent will collapse and it will be a huge job to remove the tube, find and repair the damage, then reinstall. With several tubes the task would be comparatively easy. So, a tent with one inflation point or not? Any advice would be appreciated.


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PersonJim1977
19/9/2016 at 12:58pm
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One point inflation - eg Outwell Smartair - has some advantages, the ridge beams give good bracing to the tent from front to rear, and I think they are easier to pitch solo.
BUT
You have so many interconnecting valves that the chances of a leak over time are much greater. Also, as all the beams are different, you would have to buy a full set of spare beams.

The separate beams system is cheaper, simpler and more reliable. You can just buy one spare beam in case of a failure.


Personzyggi10
19/9/2016 at 3:13pm
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Thanks for your response, and you make points I hadn't even thought of. I was leaning towards a multiple inflation points tent, but for other reasons.
My partner and I had at the top of our shortlist the Vango Edoras 500xl, but it being a 2016 tent it seems to be out of stock everywhere. Their 2017 400xl seems the next best option thus far, with Kampa yet to release the dimensions of their new tents.
We'll both be sad to see the last of our Outwell Monterey 5, probably the best tent we've ever bought, but needs must.
Again, thanks for your advice. Much appreciated.


Personcampasarow
19/9/2016 at 6:58pm
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Quote: Originally posted by zyggi10 on 19/9/2016
Thanks for your response, and you make points I hadn't even thought of. I was leaning towards a multiple inflation points tent, but for other reasons.
My partner and I had at the top of our shortlist the Vango Edoras 500xl, but it being a 2016 tent it seems to be out of stock everywhere. Their 2017 400xl seems the next best option thus far, with Kampa yet to release the dimensions of their new tents.
We'll both be sad to see the last of our Outwell Monterey 5, probably the best tent we've ever bought, but needs must.
Again, thanks for your advice. Much appreciated.


We have the Edoras 500XL and it is a great tent and one I can highly recommend. I understand from speaking to BCH camping in Trowbridge (where we purchased ours) that Vango are going to continue with this in 2017 and are dropping some of the smaller variants.

Up until recently I'm sure I saw some 500XL still on sale.

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Personzyggi10
20/9/2016 at 10:41am
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I have searched repeatedly for the Edoras 500xl but to no avail. Time to start again, given you've seen some out there, and thanks for the tip. I have noted that they are bringing out a 2017 version, but at a higher price. That said, for my partner and I it ticks all the boxes and we'd rather pay more than compromise on space etc.
Thanks for your advice.


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Personcampasarow
20/9/2016 at 8:15pm
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Quote: Originally posted by zyggi10 on 20/9/2016
I have searched repeatedly for the Edoras 500xl but to no avail. Time to start again, given you've seen some out there, and thanks for the tip. I have noted that they are bringing out a 2017 version, but at a higher price. That said, for my partner and I it ticks all the boxes and we'd rather pay more than compromise on space etc.
Thanks for your advice.



It would appear it has sold out everywhere now. The 2017 model looks interesting though as it will have the roof lights (windows) and the gizmo where you can attch things to the beams. I wish they wouldn't keep improving existing models. It's most frustrating


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Personzyggi10
24/9/2016 at 5:47pm
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As I mentioned in an earlier post,they are also bringing out an Edoras 400xl, which may be better suited to my partner and me. The 500xl has a living area of 11 square metres, whereas the 400xl is just over 9. However, the tent we are (sadly) selling is the Outwell Monterey 5 (just over 10, and the best tent I've ever had), and that had more than enough space.
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to offer your help. Most appreciated.


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Persontentsandaccessories
04/10/2016 at 8:47pm
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Hi,

Single Inflation IS actually a little more difficult to inflate than individual points as you are having to force the air through the entire air tube system, but by no means is it hard. Think of it as having to turn the tele up from the TV itself instead of using the remote! (Best i could think of, sorry).
The main point for me is the price difference between the two, if money was no object then id opt for the single inflation otherwise individual every time. Cheaper and easier.

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Personzyggi10
05/10/2016 at 8:38am
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Thanks for the advice. I'm fairly sure now that I'll go for either the Edoras 400xl or the Hayling 6. I did look at the Outdoor Revolution Airedale 6 but reviews on here for that manufacturer (importer?) are not good. One of the problems is that the front door does not zip along the bottom, leading to draughts, and unless this year's model is different then the Hayling has the same problem. Still checking, and thanks again.


PersonCross Camping
05/10/2016 at 10:48am
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All outdoor Rev have zips along the bottom of the doors now...The Airedale 6 is going to be so popular. The Hayling is a great tent and they will both be about the same price for 2017


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Personzyggi10
05/10/2016 at 3:37pm
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Looks are only one factor, but I do like the look of the Airedale. Problem is, their site has so little information eg on lantern hanging point(s). I sent them an e-mail with various questions. To their credit it was promptly answered, but to my question re living area size I got "4m", which is meaningless. An educated guess would be around 10 square metres. I then looked at the reviews on here, and some were really terrible (leaks, draughts and more)- though it has to be said most were from 2015. I do hope they put a video, with commentary, on YT and get their web site quickly sorted because despite the above the tent still appeals, and I must assume that they have listened to their customers and made the necessary improvements. Thank you for your time. Most appreciated.


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05/10/2016 at 10:17pm
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I just want to say that don't let a few iffy reviews put you off of Outdoor Revolution. Every single manufacture at some point has a dodgy batch and a bad run some years, from my experience with them i always found them to be superb. Their beams are incredibly tough and the base polyester they use is generally always 150denier which is very hard wearing and will last a good while. Plus their guarantee/warranty is very attractive as long as you remember to register within a time frame after purchase.

Take another look at them, see if you can get to see them in the flesh and get your hands on them and shake them about a bit i am sure you will be impressed.

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We have put forward a number of things we wanted ORev to include in their tents since 2015 and in 2016 they were amazing and for 2017 they have pretty much included all the requests we wanted. We will make one of our usual videos once we have the Airedale 6 on show in the spring of 2017. Take a look at our channel on YTube to get a flavour of how we do it. Just search "Cross Camping" on YTube

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iVE had 4 airbeam tents now and the best of them all is the hybrid Outwell Phoenix7 atc

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I've watched almost all of your videos on YT and found them well-presented and informative. You need as much help as you can get when you are about to reduce your bank balance by around £1000, a not inconsiderable sum. I look forward to seeing your video of the Airedale come the spring, and thanks for your input.


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the hayling 6 air is an epic tent. the internal dimensions are big enough to keep teenage brother and sister from killing each other with room to spare.

which coincidentally i`m selling as we now have a folding camper..



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