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Subject Topic: To SIG, or not to SIG...?
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PersonmissElaineous
14/3/2006 at 10:33pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Skatty on 14/3/2006

Thats right on inner pitch first tent the groundsheet is part of the inner tent ,then the flysheet just goes over the top ( no groundsheet needed on the fly cos it already on the inner )

 Flysheet first tents with an integral groundsheet (sig ) the outer goes up with the groundsheet attatched then you can hag the bedroom up inside ( also with grounsheets attatched so a double whammy on the flooring )

Or in some cases, with flysheet first SIG tents, the inners can stay attached inside the outers and the whole lot goes up together, very time saving.  The Coleman Weathermaster does this.



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14/3/2006 at 10:42pm
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Yeah Yeah Ok show off!!!!

 

Like i knew that ,I just didnt want to add to the confusion ok !!!



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> With a SIG you've got to thread the poles through the SIG and get it secured before you can start the inside set up <

Not necessarily.

We are talking about a lot of different tents here.

Mine was a Randstad Pyramid tent, one piece/whole system, single sheetnwith SIG attached, canvas.
The second one also, a Karsten 350, single sheet, one piece/whole inflatable tent, no loose poles but sewn in inflatable tubes as iglo, canopy could attached separetely or left away for quick, simple overnighting.
These do not have poles to thread.

The first one has two poles at the entrance plus one centre pole, and finally two canopy poles.Pin the groundsheet, put in the two entrance poles and erect, tahn centre pole, do the remainder of the pinning while SWMBO brings in sleeping mats, cooking box etc.

The second Karsten inflatable tent: 4 pins at the corners pf the groundsheet, switch compressor on, wait 3 minutes than press inflatbale tubes up, SWMBO brings stuff in and I pin the rest.

Conclusion: SIG does not necessarily coincide with ease of erecting; it may or it may not.
Choose a SIG for functional reasons, and choose the type of tent for functional reason like ease of erecting.


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Could people please give give some examples of
Outer tent-pitched-first, SIG tents (6-8 berth)

Other tents I'm keen on are:
Inner tent-pitched-first, SIG tents
e.g. Outwell Hartfords

and: Outer-tent-pitched-first, NON-SIG tents
e.g. Khyam Arizona, Khyam Indiana 8, ?Wynnster Mercury 9.

So just to decide out SIGs now...

Andy

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PersonmissElaineous
15/3/2006 at 11:09am
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Quote: Originally posted by Skatty on 14/3/2006

Yeah Yeah Ok show off!!!!

 

Like i knew that ,I just didnt want to add to the confusion ok !!!

Sorry Skatty, I just can't resist any opportunity to praise my wonderful tent!!! 

Andy, in answer to your 1st question, Outwell Monana 6 or 12 are SIG and outer erect 1st.


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15/3/2006 at 2:01pm
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Don't forget the Cabonon Biscaya range (ZIG not SIG in this case) if you are looking for a larger tent. We manged to store ours in a bag already zipped ready for the next time.


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Is there a postive apsect to having an inner pitch first tent, apart from it maybe having a SIG like the Harfords. I mean given the poss. of it raining while your're trying to put the tent up, why are not all tents outer/flysheet pitch first?

Andy


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PersonmissElaineous
15/3/2006 at 5:58pm
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I think the advantage of these types of tent is that you have 2 layers of protection from the elements throughout the tent, including the living area.  Plus maybe a tauter inner.



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