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Subject Topic: Drowning doesn`t look like drowning...
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07/3/2012 at 7:51pm
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As a member of a rescue team and qualified in swiftwater rescue I have attended a few "persons reported in water" incidents. I have also unfortuanetly recovered a few bodies of those who didn't make it. Not all people in trouble in the water are obviously in trouble. The view you get from the bank/side of the pool is different to the view you get with your head at water level. Add in the mix of light reflecting on the surface and that surface moving it's not as easy to spot someone in trouble as people think. Then you have the effects of cold/shock/booze/drugs/injuries just to add to the confusion. Trust me, reality is different to how most people imagine drowning to be. Just my opinion.

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07/3/2012 at 10:58pm
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Hi Bonzo007

Would be interested what you make of the info. in the original post link?

In two years I've only had one person dismiss it as "common sense" and "a commercial entity attempting to profit from safety" (someone on this forum actually)

All the rest have rated it highly but it is possible that we have all been duped...

fc


08/3/2012 at 7:47pm
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Hi FC,

In my opinion a good well informed article, although the Americans are fond of their "tags" for everything. They are pretty clued up when it comes to search and rescue. People drown for various reasons. If they fall into cold water (even in summer water can be below 10 deg C) in which case you often get a gasp reflex and water is taken into the lungs that way. If somebody has been in the water for a long time (20 minutes +) then they are in danger of developing hypothermia). Deep water is COLD, even if it seems warm at the shore go down a foot or so and you can feel the difference. Cramp is another big factor, as is exhaustion, panic and even sheer terror. Try getting someone to the bank of a river while they're panicing, not easy. A quick word about PFD's. They're designed to keep you afloat but not necessarily the right way up. A life jacket will keep the head above water.
Hope this helps,

Bonzo

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09/3/2012 at 4:06pm
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Romany Girl
I was referring to pretty well all canoe/kayak hire companies operating throughout France and Spain .... not sure about Germany and Italy ... will find out this summer.
And the majority of gear sold at major outlets such as Decathlon.
Users should be aware of the false sense of security these can bring.



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