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Hi just to update anyonme interested, the nose weight rating for the peugeot 207 sw is 46 which is quite poor!  After discussions with out local garage man here we have decided to get a tow bar fitted and are going to buy a thule 9708 hangon.  This is built to take 4 bikes, but we will only be using it for 4 this year as my daughter is still in a childseat.  The thule carrier is 10kilos, the combined weight of 2 x adult and 1 x child is 38 kilos.  If we were doing a very short journey to park with kiddies, I would put 4 bikes on the back, but not for longer journeys, mechanic has advised us not to go over 50 kilos.  The oong term plan is to get roof bars next year and put one of the kids bikes on the roof.  I really like the idea of the towbar system as you can lock bikes into it so very secure if making a long distance trip with stop overs and it will be easier for me to get bikes on and off if hubby not there (if these case, we would only need 3 bikes as well).  Thanks to all for your advice.

Oh yes and my brand new icarus 600 arrived yesterday so hoping for a break in the clouds on sat so we can put it up!

KARYN