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via mobile 17/7/2019 at 2:54pm
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im interested in a static near the sea with site fees no more than 2000. i would like to pay no more than 10k for the van. i need a quiet site with no facilities and dog friendly.
look forward to your reply
helen mills


17/7/2019 at 4:44pm
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Be very careful buying statics, especially at the lower end of the price range. It's not the statics that are the problem, its the sites! Many sites have rules such as no more than 10 years old, then they have to be removed. (At your cost!) Remember, it is extremely rare for any site anywhere to take a static they haven't sold, which makes an unsited static virtually worthless, so always buy one on site and look VERY carefully at any terms and conditions. It's a minefield! Also remember that if the site owners change, any terms and conditions that you originally signed with the previous owner may go right out the window and follow the previous owner down the road. The new owner does not have to honour them.

Personally, if I wanted to stay on one site for an extended period, I would buy a big tourer and put it on a seasonal pitch. That way there are no age rules, and if you have to move it you can simply tow it off and find a market for it. Even old tourers sell. A couple of years back I sold a 1988 Elddis and made a small profit on the sale. Not so with statics.

Good luck with your search, but do take great care. If something looks too good to be true, it usually is!


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via mobile 17/7/2019 at 10:31pm
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Thankyou for taking the time to reply and your honesty. I really appreciate this and will definitely review my thoughts now. Kind regards, helen


19/7/2019 at 5:27pm
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Add your location Helen..and the area you would like a caravan.Somebody may know of something suitable. Good advice from Colin21. You should find a van for that sort of money..but ..the yearly rent might be a problem.

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19/7/2019 at 8:07pm
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there are lots of posts on here re buying a static in the UK. many people buy them and more than happy others not so. you only have to look at the number of static sites and the numbers of caravans on them to see that lots of people are happy with their lot.

good advice in earlier posts

are you just looking in the UK or overseas?


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via mobile 19/7/2019 at 9:58pm
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IM LOOKING POSSIBLE KENT OR SOUTHAMPTON AREA. THANKYOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO REPLY.
HELEN


20/7/2019 at 9:31am
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weekend use? main holiday use? as much use as possible?

we have ours in France and though we cant use it every weekend we get around 3 months in total (at least) but the main things are that its close to your £2000 per year site fees AND there is no age restriction on the vans.

we are on our second van now (we imported them from the UK) when we sold out first van after 9 years we got virtually all our money back - try doing that in the UK!


20/7/2019 at 3:52pm
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Your budget is probably going to be very tight for both the van and the ongoing pitch fees, as Kent and Hampshire are both popular = expensive areas.
The closer to the sea you are, the more you will pay.
The cheaper vans are advertsied privately on places such as gumtree and preloved (there is one currently being advertised under £10k on the Isle of Sheppey), you can look for these, see what parks they are on, and then contact the Park direct to find out what their pitch fees are, whether dogs are allowed, and what their terms and conditions are.
While the big companies all have websites, the type of park you are interested in is probably going to take quite a bit of research. You can try getting a list of licensed holiday parks from the local councils and then contacting each park directly for information.
Make sure that whatever you consider is at a distance that you are willing to travel - no good buying something that you end up never using because it is too far away.
As said, you need to think about when you will use it - lots of short breaks mean something very close to home.
You also need to find out what the site rules are - do you want a site that has an age limit? that allows/does not allow subletting? that is open all year if you plan to use it in winter?
Remember that the pitch fees will almost certainly go up each year, and also be very careful in finding out what the age limit for the van is.
NEVER EVER rely on verbal promises - get everything important in writing and check the contract before handing over any money.
If buying privately from the previous owner, then make sure you check with the park first that they are permitted to assign the pitch to you - there have been cases where people have purchased privately, then discovered that while they now own the van, they do not have any right to keep it on the park.
All of the above is on the assumption that you are looking for a holiday home.
If you are looking for somewhere to live in, I am afraid that your budget of £10k will not be enough to get a residential home on a residential park in those areas, although further towards the North of England you will find prices considerably cheaper for the same standard of home.


via mobile 22/7/2019 at 10:50pm
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thanks so much i will look into this


via mobile 22/7/2019 at 10:52pm
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thanks for the very usefull info


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26/7/2019 at 8:07am
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Helen, Our static is sited on a PROPER site with a 20 year licence agreement near Dover. No club house or playground. If you have 10k to spend on a van, they do come up quite often here. The only downside to your budget is the site fees are £3400, plus gas and electric and of course insurance. If you want any more info, just ask and I will tell you what I can, and our experience here. Just remember a static will never make you money, its just like owning a car and devalue at about the same rate. Saying all that, its great to get away whenever you want.


via mobile 26/7/2019 at 9:15am
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That's really helpfull thanks so much x


26/7/2019 at 8:24pm
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Always remember though that any contract or licencing agreement is with the existing site owner. If the park gets sold, any agreement with the current owner is about as much use as a chocolate teapot. Also, If the new owner decides to double the site rent, there is very little you can do about it. Its pay up or get off the site. (Residential sites are completely different).

There have been many horror stories (do some research) about people who have bought statics on a site with no age limits, for instance. Then the site changes hands weeks after they have bought a 14 year old unit, and the new owner decides to "upgrade" the site and decides all units over 10 years old have to go by the end of the month! Nothing you can do, its their site. They will make an "offer" for the "old" static, but its usually pennies and often conditional on you buying a new one from them.



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26/7/2019 at 9:16pm
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Not 100% sure about this, but I believe that if you have a contract that specifies a minimum number of years on a holiday site, IF the park is sold as a going concern,the new owner will have to honour that contract and cannot evict you until the contract expires (unless you are in breach of any of the terms, so there is some protection under the laws of contract. Which is why, with a holiday caravan, it is so important to read the contract, as Colin D points out, there is no specific protection in law for holiday sites.
It would probably be a different situation if the owner went into administration, then the contracts may all expire by default.
Anyone who owns or is considering buying a static caravan could be well advised to join NACO, who can clarify this sort of "what if" situation.



27/7/2019 at 8:59am
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Quote: Originally posted by geoffprinter on 26/7/2019
Helen, Just remember a static will never make you money, its just like owning a car and devalue at about the same rate. Saying all that, its great to get away whenever you want.



we kept our last one for 9 years and suffered very little depreciation ! bought it (inc shipping to France) for £12,500 spent about £8k on it over the years, decking, shed etc then sold it for £18,500 .....

so while you might not make money, its nice not to lose your total investment

My daughters van, £3k to buy (already on site) £3K spent on it inc decking, pitched roof etc - value at £15k. so the opportunities are put there if you do your research fully, look hard enough and are lucky enough !


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wow such alot to research and consider



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