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Personkennyboy14
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Hi , hope this is not a silly question , we have static with 7 radiators ,if we shut 4 of them down ie in the bedrooms and hallway ,does the boiler use less gas ? thanks for any advice on this


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Quote: Originally posted by kennyboy14 on 24/2/2022
Hi , hope this is not a silly question , we have static with 7 radiators ,if we shut 4 of them down ie in the bedrooms and hallway ,does the boiler use less gas ? thanks for any advice on this


Not a silly question at all. I would think it would make some difference but I doubt it would be all that much. Every time you open a door into any of the areas where the radiators are turned off you would let cold air into the heated areas, so the boiler would react by trying to compensate. If you have any areas, such as a bedroom, that you were not using at all so you could keep the door closed, that might help a little but I doubt even that would make all that much difference.


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Hi Colin ,thanks for taking time to replying ,was just a thought as you probably know already you can chew through the gas bottles pretty quickly if not careful


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Have you thought of getting a safefil bottle / bottles that you can refill at Morrisons.

That will cut the cost of your gas considerably.


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24/2/2022 at 2:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by woodman2 on 24/2/2022
Have you thought of getting a safefil bottle / bottles that you can refill at Morrisons.

That will cut the cost of your gas considerably.


Don't statics usually use much larger bottles, or do safefil do all sizes? The last static I rented a few years back had a 47kg bottle. I think some also have a gas supply from a bulk tank, or maybe that is just residential sites.


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Personkennyboy14
24/2/2022 at 2:54pm
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Hi,woodman thanks woodman ,but we use two 47kg bottles ,even tho at 62 soon to be 63 I am still pretty strong ,but dont fancy humping that weight about .
as a matter of interest what is the largest safefill bottles they do ?


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Thanks Colin you are bang on ,we use twin 47kg bottles ,the upper part of the park we are on mains gas


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Theoretically it should use less gas, as there is less water to be heated up - only 3 radiators to heat instead of 7.
All the "how to save money" articles suggest turning off radiators in rooms that are not used (and keeping the doors to those rooms closed).
The downside, of course, may be condensation forming in the unheated rooms...


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Quote: Originally posted by 22seaside on 24/2/2022
Theoretically it should use less gas, as there is less water to be heated up - only 3 radiators to heat instead of 7.
All the "how to save money" articles suggest turning off radiators in rooms that are not used (and keeping the doors to those rooms closed).
The downside, of course, may be condensation forming in the unheated rooms...


Yes that would be the crucial thing, keeping the doors closed. However, the O/P mentioned the hallway and that couldn't be closed off as presumably most of the rooms would lead off it. Then there are the bedrooms. Presumably those will be used and so the doors would be opened at some time. It's true that there would be less water to be heated with some rads turned off, but the radiators that are left on would have to work harder to keep the used areas warm. Any doors opened onto unheated rooms would lead to cold air rushing into the heated rooms and cooling them down, which would lead to the boiler cutting in to heat them back up again. Then there is the condensation issue in unheated rooms. Personally I think any savings on gas consumption would be minimal.


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25/2/2022 at 6:36am
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Thanks 22 seaside and Colin for your help on this


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you dont have to have 47kg bottles. 13kg refillable ones (safefill) would be ideal. we use 13kg bottles in our van in France.

the only issue is that you would need to rill the bottles up more frequently, which is why 47kg are used (especially with central heating)

have you considered fitting a diesel heater? take a look at youtube, although they tend to be used in motorhomes/campers/trucks/ambulances - there is no reason why one cant be installed in a static - in fact i intend to do just that when we get over to France .....

although it prob wont provide the full comfort of central heating, they will produce 5kw (i think some are 8kw) which will def provide background heating.


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kennyboy, do you know what ampage is going into your van? It might be time to compare leccy & gas prices in your van. If you have enough ampage you could try electric low powered heaters for the bedrooms, to take the chill off them. I know when we had the luxury of central heating in our older van the site was charging us an "Industrial" rate for electricity which they claimed was a lot cheaper than domestic rate, so might be worth checking to see if its cheaper than what you would use with bottled gas. I know back then in 2006 a 47kg gas bottle was £35 so gawd knows what one costs now. We might just have been lucky with our last van but the electricity was defo cheaper on site than at home. That van only had 10 amp going into it but with juggling between gas fire in lounge and putting a heater in bedroom at night we stayed warm even in the colder months. I did miss the cental heating though, but would hate to think how much it would cost nowadays to keep the WHOLE van warm in winter.


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03/3/2022 at 10:59am
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Hi thank you all for your replies , geoff im afraid electric is too dear to use where we are ,we will stick with the gas bottles but be more frugal .


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Quote: Originally posted by kennyboy14 on 03/3/2022
Hi thank you all for your replies , geoff im afraid electric is too dear to use where we are ,we will stick with the gas bottles but be more frugal .





Ok mate, just an idea. As I say we were lucky with our site getting cheap electricity, in fact for the 1st 2 seasons electricity was free and was included in our site fees, but like everything some owners took advantage and left heaters on even when they went home after their stays, just so they could have a warm caravan to return to.



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