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10/10/2024 at 1:44pm
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The first post indicated they wanted to downsize and mentioned a Willerby static.
They also said they wanted to live in it, so on the assumption that they are thinking of a permanent residential home I have answered accordingly.
The majority of people do not initially know there is a difference between holiday statics and residential park homes when they consider downsizing to one.
When we first considered it I was totally oblivious to the fact that caravan sites even needed to be licensed, let alone the difference between holiday and residential parks and homes.Luckily, we found out enough information to avoid a horrible mistake of buying a holiday static to live in.
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11/10/2024 at 11:40am
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Quote: Originally posted by 22seaside on 09/10/2024
Quote: Originally posted by Paul_B on 09/10/2024
A friend had a residential static but had to remove it as it was getting too old, they sold it and the new owners removed it, our friend bought a residential chalet on the same site, this has to be painted the sites colours but has no age limit or other restrictions.
Mmm. Something very wrong there, as if your friend had a home on a site that was genuinely residential then they would not have to remove or replace because of it's age. I suspect they are on a site that does not have a residential licence, is not a Protected Site under the meaning of the Act, and the site owners are simply turning a blind eye to people living there. So if the site changes management, they could end up with a similar problem.
Its a genuine residential site but with new owners, however when the bought it some years ago the old owners ignored the leasehold time period, however the new owners wouldn't renew it so it had to go.
The chalet came with a 25 year leasehold.
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11/10/2024 at 1:48pm
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QUOTE: Its a genuine residential site but with new owners, however when the bought it some years ago the old owners ignored the leasehold time period, however the new owners wouldn't renew it so it had to go.
The chalet came with a 25 year leasehold.QNE QUOTE:
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Individual park homes/chalets on a genuine residential site (meaning: A Protected Site under the Mobile Homes Act) should not have any form of lease.
New owners (park or home) make no difference - they take over the existing agreements.
The only time a site owner could force somebody to remove their home because of an expired lease would be if the actual park was on leased land and the lease on the land itself had expired.Otherwise the home stays on the pitch in perpetuity.
Are you sure this is not a 12 month holiday site?
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12/10/2024 at 9:28am
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Positive,
when buying a caravan or chalet you buy with either a 15-25 or 50 year lease.
Its either a 10 month holiday or residential with a preference for residential, there are quite a lot who live there permanently and quite a lot who rent out as holiday lets.
It has its own pub, laundrette and shop and a short walk to the beach
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12/10/2024 at 6:19pm
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There are indeed legitimate mixed use sites.
But - if they are selling homes with a licence term on the individual home, then - to the best of my knowledge - they are either not selling a home that is recognised as residential under the Mobile Homes Act, or they are breaking the law by selling them with a fixed term contract.
Under the current laws in England (Wales, Scotland and NI may be slight;y different) the right to keep the home on site is in perpetuity, or - if the land the actual park is on is leased, until the land lease expires.
Did your friend take legal advice (free via the Gov funded LEASE organisation) when told to replace her existing home?
See section 5.1 on page 6 of the attached from AGE UK.
https://www.ageuk.org.uk/globalassets/age-uk/documents/factsheets/fs71_park_homes_fcs.pdf
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13/10/2024 at 9:06am
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Quote: Originally posted by 22seaside on 12/10/2024
There are indeed legitimate mixed use sites.
But - if they are selling homes with a licence term on the individual home, then - to the best of my knowledge - they are either not selling a home that is recognised as residential under the Mobile Homes Act, or they are breaking the law by selling them with a fixed term contract.
Under the current laws in England (Wales, Scotland and NI may be slight;y different) the right to keep the home on site is in perpetuity, or - if the land the actual park is on is leased, until the land lease expires.
Did your friend take legal advice (free via the Gov funded LEASE organisation) when told to replace her existing home?
See section 5.1 on page 6 of the attached from AGE UK.
https://www.ageuk.org.uk/globalassets/age-uk/documents/factsheets/fs71_park_homes_fcs.pdf
Sadly it seems that Age UK do not know the difference between a park home and a static. A static could be regarded as a caravan as it can be moved. A park home is definitely not a caravan in any form as cannot be moved so not sure why caravan is even mentioned in the first line?
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13/10/2024 at 10:16am
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It depends on which site you choose to buy your static caravan and if its freehold or leasehold, from the way you put things it seams you bought your freehold.
"The park you choose will charge a rent for the lease of the pitch and this varies from one park to another and often between different pitches at the same park. With the lease, you are also agreeing to any terms and conditions relating to the management of the park.
Perhaps one of the most important of these is the length of the lease – anything from 5 to 99 years – and may impose conditions relating to the maximum age of the static caravan you may keep on the pitch."
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12/11/2024 at 9:22am
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Seekers Park Homes site might be useful. Quite a lot of homes for sale.
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29/11/2024 at 9:15pm
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Good evening Jade.
The OP indicated that they were considering a static to use as a full-time permanent/only residence.
I hope you are not suggesting they purchase a holiday static on a holiday park to use as their only home.
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01/12/2024 at 3:59pm
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I hope that after the initial shock that caused the post they have stopped to have a good think about what they really want to do, and all the various options, not rushed into any decision.
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