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25/6/2007 at 7:04pm
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I think that with the increasing number of single parent families it is essential to provide a family bath room with loo, basin and shower/bath in it . Then dads can go in with their daughters and mums with their sons.

A dedicated dog walk, nicely mown, is also essential if you are allowing dogs.

Good luck with your new venture

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25/6/2007 at 7:34pm
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I know this is probably obvious but we all like different things, so your never going to please everybody.

Get the basic's right then listen to you campers maybe have a suggestion form for people who have stayed to give you feedback and then consider there requests/opions.

Think clean toilets and showers are a must though.



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26/6/2007 at 10:07am
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WOW!!!!  thank you for all the comments so far...I am glad i asked for opinions..I will let you all know how it goes and when we open for campers...THANK YOU and please keep posting your ideas


26/6/2007 at 10:38am
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set yourself high standards of maintenance, cleansliness & behaviour ( of your guests) & maintain them. High standards beat flashy fascilitys every time!

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26/6/2007 at 11:42am
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I'd just like to echo the other comments i.e

A proper bath (most campsites charge £1 for this due to increased volume of hot water, which is gladly paid)

Dedicated dog walk where dogs can run off the lead (an exercised dog is a happy dog) with dog bins and maybe even doggie bags supplied so there can be no excuses for not picking up after your pet!

Also if the campsite is not near a shop then have a small amount of essentials (milk, bread etc.) available in reception.

Good luck with it all and keep us updated



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26/6/2007 at 11:52am
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Has anyone mentioned ordering newspapers and maybe having a selection of books for borrowing?


26/6/2007 at 12:45pm
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Lots of decent sized showers, and preferably not with those push button type controls.  Also plenty of shelves and hooks in the showers and a decent sized changing area which is dry, more often than not this area ends up as wet as the shower area! My other personal no-no is shower curtains, i think they are really unhygenic as they never look clean. My only other 'would likes' are marked out pitches so there's no problem of your neighbour being right on top of you and a lovely dog walk, with doggie bins.



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26/6/2007 at 12:45pm
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Where abouts are you going to open this site?


26/6/2007 at 12:59pm
 Location: Derbyshire
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A shop that opens all day would be nice, not one that shuts 11am till 4pm. And, a shop that sells less sweets and tacky toys than most.

A field for kids to play in, with a football net and maybe a basketball net and a wildlife area (if you've got the room of course)..You can then scrap the 20k adventuree playground, with its exhaustive planning permission and health and safety issues. 

A communal bbq and a picnic area, you light the bbq, we bring the sausages. Great way to make friends.

Views of the Atlantic and access to a beach are always a nice feature.

Sorry, forgot to add, good luck!



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26/6/2007 at 4:33pm
 Location: London
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Would second just about everything that has been said here so far. As a couple who go camping without any children and are always looking at a holiday as a way to get away from it all, i would say the following things would be on our wish list,

1) a bit of peace and quiet; not talking about the usual noises of life that you just switch off to, but things like loud radios, boistorous parties, incessant screaming and shouting of kids. A rigourously enforced noise curfew at night (10.30ish) is a real favourite of ours as is some system of stopping access to the site after a certain time of night.

2) marked pitches; these leave people in no doubt as to where they can and can't pitch and ensure that a) nobody pitches on top of you b) the owner can't suddenly cram in a load of extra tents at busy times. (not saying that you would but you see my point) When we were newby campers we sometimes found it quite tricky when faced with a semi-full field of randomly pitched tents and were told to just pitch where we liked. I agree that campsites should not look too ordered and neat but a bit of order leaves everyone knowing where they stand. 

3) being able to book a pitch would be really good for us. We travel from London to the lake District and we often have to arrive at busy times either on a saturday or a bank holiday sunday. Being able to book a pitch would save us a great deal of time trawling around site after site looking for one with spaces. We would quite happily pay a small (no refundable) surcharge for being able to book in advance.

4) a seperate space for children to go off and play in or preferably fields specifically set aside for families. That way, everyone is happy and people with children usually don't have a problem with other people's children running around. Such a field could also be adjacent to the play area so that parents could keep an eye on their children and people without children don't usually want to pitch right by the play area.

5) good policies; as someone else said, high standards beat flashiness everytime. If possible, regular walks around the site by the site owner or management, chatting to people will create a real sense of security and also fill in the gaps on what people want. I don't think there is anything worse or off-putting to visit a site and have your stay spoiled by the completely inconsiderate behaviour of others, especially if you feel that the site management don't really care and just want you money. Dealing effectively with complaints is good, keeping on top of the bad behaviour and stopping it before it starts is better.

6) I would say that if at all commercially possible (and i would suggest it is because of the diversity of campers) sites really need to decide who they are for and stick to that. If you are happy to accept large single-sex parties, then cater specifically for them as you will recieve no end of business from such groups but will seriously alienate everyone else. Likewise, cater for families and families will be happy or cater for older couples and you will attract droves of those. I think the problems start when sites try to be everything to everyone as although most campers tend to be tolerant people they do want different things from a site.

Really good luck with the site; i think the very fact that you are concerned enough about your guests to try and get ahead of the game on what to provide for them shows you are well on the way to success



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26/6/2007 at 5:18pm
 Location: northants
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i like the toilets to be clean and to do this i think they need checking hourly not once a day, i like the idea of a family room would make life easier to get all 3 of the kids ready together without several trips to the shower rooms.i also think electric should be provided for hairdryers etc or have the hairdryers fixed to the walls like some sites i have stayed on. we dont use electric so this would be an added bonus.

i think a play area for different ages would be good but not together i wouldnt want my 3 year old playing with the 14 yr olds. no offence to any teenagers but they can be rough when running around.

security.... i think several trips around the camp throughout the day would be a good idea, i'm not saying be really strict but some campers can be very noisey at 3 am which is not very nice.

i personally like a camp site that i know has good security,sensible restrictions, nice play area(preferably in view of the pitches) also like to have a play area, some campsites we have pitched on are not large enogh to play infront of the tent and we have to go to another field , would be nice to put your feet up with a glass of wine and see the kids running around having fun.
big clean toilet block some only have a few toilets/showers and this is not enough in peak times.

we have just come back from a haven site and was so impressed with the clean toilets etc also when a pitch was vacated they were there moving the grass and making sure it was ready for the next people.

as for pricng its ahrd to know whats best. last year we seemed to pay per pitch this year we are finding that we are paying per pitch for 4 people then £2 or £3 extra per person. i think maybe a limit of 5 0r 6 to a pitch then extra per person would be better. i feel nowadays families are larger.

a large pitch is good aswell as some pitches are just to close together

good luck


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26/6/2007 at 5:47pm
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Quote: Originally posted by camper1967 on 25/6/2007

Hi

I am in a lucky position and am about to open a new campsite (from scratch and subject to necessary planning) and after looking through the postings here it apears everyone wants something different from a campsite.

My idea is to have a campsite that is aimed towards the family market and would love other members opinions on what they would like from a campsite. My main areas of concern are

1) showers and toilets...besides being clean which goes without saying would you pay slightly more if you could have a private bathroom for your stay? Would family showers ( i.e. shower rooms with 2 or more showers)be of interest? Is it necessary to provide child size toilets, urinals, sinks? Are hair dryers and straightners a must?


i personally would be fine with sharing showers rather than having a personal bathroom, although having a few family bathrooms would be GREAT! you could have one child size toilet/urinal/sink in each block, or you could have a toilet stall! also a changing area. i hate shower curtains, would much prefer to have two doors within the shower just to partition the clothes! don't put in straighteners and hairdryers, put in plugs instead! oh, and good size mirrors!

2) play area...what do people want?...should play areas be from 18 months up to 14years? or should i be looking at older teenagers too and what would they like to see? In an indoor area what would children want...i have looked into ball pools and snooker tables.


ah, now here's a subject close to my heart! please, please, cater for older teenagers, as a 16 year old, i still love play areas! basically you want some baby swings, some little people stuff and some bigger swings, maybe a tyre swing, definately an aerial runway, great fun! erm, oh i know, one of those obstacle course things with stepping stones and ropes and chains and stuff! as for indoors,well, not too keen on that, but a soft play area, pool table, things like that.

3) Pricing..i can't get this right..would it be better to charge per pitch or per person?..The trouble with per pitch is that i could get 10 people on 1 pitch and just the 1 person on another pitch.


go for per pitch, but charge less for a pitch with just 2 people on it and a small tent. this will work a treat!

What would you like from a campsite? I know what me and my family like but new ideas are much appreciated


a nice place to get away from it all which is suitable for all the family, also one that is not too much like a home from home! hope this helps!



26/6/2007 at 6:14pm
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Hi,
1) Wet rooms are great or even family bathrooms. I have three boys aged 6, 7 and 8 and I faced a barrage of abuse at one site for taking my 8 year old son into the shower with me in the ladies unit, so a family set up would be great. I'm not sure that it would be worth you going to the effort to put straightners in the bathrooms though, if you want that kind of thing then you will bring it with you.

2)A great play area! It's the high light of my boys stay! Preferably one that would be by a "family field" thatthey could get to easily and be close by the tent for safety reasons.

3)Charge wise. I like a per pitch charge or a two adults, two children etc for a certain amount and than extra after that, does that make any sense???

4)Fire pits would be a great idea. We love the idea of having a fire but with all the kit we have np space to take anything like that with us.

5) As previously mentioned a later check out time would be good as if we only go for a two night weekend trip somethimes it's a rush on the morning we leave to have breakfast, pack up etc.

Good luck with your venture.
Let us know where it is going to be so we can all come and visit!

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Abbey Farm
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26/6/2007 at 7:58pm
 Location: Cornwall
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Bookcrossing shelves, and mention it on your publicity so people know before they arrive: people who have read a book leave it rather than taking it home, borrow another or take it away. You don't have to worry about providing the books and having them stray, because they are meant to ebb and flow. I've seen this in rental cottages and on campsites. The etiquette is that you never take away more books than you've left, so the supply stays fairly constant, and if there's a sign up explaining that it does seem to work.


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27/6/2007 at 11:14am
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I would like to see kiddie size toilets, just one in each would be great.  My local CC&C site that we use loads has a kiddie urinal and DS loves using that just like dad.

 

A family bathroom is great, along with a bath (ds doesnt like showers) so I end up washing him in the sink.  I wouldnt mind paying £1 or so for this luxury.

 

Basic supplies such as milk, butter, eggs, bacon etc are always good.  Stayed on a site that ran a 'trust' shop and it was great, only small amount of bits, but you could get one mini box of cornflakes and they didnt charge the earth.

 

Pitches that are properly marked and where you dont have to trail your EHU cable for miles.  Lots of water points

 

But above all, like everyone else, its a case of keeping the showers and loos immaculate and fully stocked with loo roll.  I really dont mind if they are basic as long as clean




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