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26/8/2010 at 9:46am
 Location: Aberdeenshire invernowhere
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jim we have looked into it and your right it cant be a septic tank its more like a large storage tank without the soakaway it just means it needs emptied every year instead of every 3 as we live in the country and dont have mains sewage our house has its own septic tank we was going to use it and thats when we found out about how we need a seperate tank

 i dont think a play area is a negative piont as the field is so big i would site it well away from the vans

the single track isnt a problem as there is plenty of passing places and no one need reverse

i forgot to add there is some lovely dog walks around here or even just nice walks if you dont have a dog



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26/8/2010 at 10:09am
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Quote: Originally posted by Greendemon315 on 26/8/2010

I believe if you tip your chemical toilet into a septic tank, the fluid stops the biological action.  We have a boat as well, and in at least two marinas we have been in, there are big notices, forbidding emptying chemical toilets, as they only have septic tanks.

I think you would need mains drainage.   We almost always use CLs, just for the peace and quiet.  That means a play area would be a negative point for us.  We need water, toilet emtying and EHU.

Single track access isn''t a problem, as long as you make sure people only leave in the morning and arrive in the afternoon.  Otherwise, somebody has to reverse for a mile, and it's usually me...

Jim


Agreed, we would avoid anything with a play area too. No point going somewhere for the peace and quiet when there are children running around screaming and shouting all day !

 



26/8/2010 at 11:14am
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'You could make both a CL & a CS by having it cut in two that way you would take 10 vans and 20 tents'

I might be wrong but I think I have read that the planning exemption laws state that you can have 5 vans without worrying about planning consent.  That would mean 2 vans for one club and 3 for the other.



26/8/2010 at 4:18pm
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Quote: Originally posted by brianconwy on 26/8/2010

'You could make both a CL & a CS by having it cut in two that way you would take 10 vans and 20 tents'<!-- Message body -->

I might be wrong but I think I have read that the planning exemption laws state that you can have 5 vans without worrying about planning consent.  That would mean 2 vans for one club and 3 for the other.



I'm not 100% positive, but as an ex town planner (but I must emphasise I was never directly involved in this sort of planning and it's just a hunch not my professional knowledge) I suspect it would come down to what is considered as the "planning unit". If the field could be divided off with perhaps two individual entrances and separate facilities you could possibly get away with a CS at one corner and a CL at the other. If it's just a big field with no separation then it probably would just be the one. I've never come across a CS and CL together but one might exist.

NB you can have as many tents as you want on a CS.

Re children's play area I think you would have to decide what "market" you are going for (which might depend on where you are and what is in the area). A kid's play area that is mentioned in the facilities will put off some campers without kids, while an adults only site will obviously restrict the market to adults only. It may not be as easy as saying that people can pitch the other end away from the play area unless you are prepared to put in more than 5 EHUs to allow people the choice of where to pitch.


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26/8/2010 at 7:07pm
 Location: Aberdeenshire invernowhere
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I am not going to try and pull a fast one with two sites out of my 19 acres i will continue to rent about 12 acres to the farmer and have one CS site with the C&CC it will be about 7 acres which is more than enough for a site my oldest son has already demanded that he is the official grass cutter and my little girl has told me we must have a play area so it wont be an adult only site i will welcome anyone and my dad has said he can put EHU anywhere we want as he owns an electrical company so its out with the pen and paper and try and plan where we will have everything but if there is anything i have missed i would love your input we have caravaned for 12 years so we have a good idea of what is required but thats only our veiws whats yours



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26/8/2010 at 7:15pm
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Just a thought but if it were a CL perhaps the toilets and showers wouldn't be a problem  as caravans have their own "facilities" but if it were a CS for tents as well you would need them or you wouldn't get many tents staying.

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26/8/2010 at 7:21pm
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I think there are some unfair comments re children's play areas. At least by having a play area, you have just that, an area for children to play!. You are therefore a lot less likely to have children playing around the units and kicking a ball at your caravan, tent or car.

I personally would not go somewhere without a play area. If you object that strongly you can  be asked to be pitched as far from it as possible or go to an adult only site. The later option does not necessarily gurantee you peace!

I would definately use the type of site you are looking to try and create. Good luck with it and let us know where it is.



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26/8/2010 at 8:23pm
 Location: Scotland
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I think most of the 'wants' have been covered by other posts.  I personally would prefer to be pitched away from the playpark, as our kids are in their late teens and don't come with us now.   I don't mind the sound of kids playing as long as their ball isn't bouncing off my van.  

I'll be interested to see how this progresses as I'm in Aberdeenshire too and use a few of  the local CS for weekend breaks. 



26/8/2010 at 8:38pm
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Have you thought of screening part of the available area off and making it suitable for storage of caravans? year round steady income aswell as the CL site??

Our needs for a CL are EHU, toilet emptying, water and the feeling of being in a large open space with no neighbours nearby!!!

If I can run around an open field naked and drunk with no-one noticing I'm happy!!!! (however I know others who would not be!!)



26/8/2010 at 8:40pm
 Location: Aberdeenshire invernowhere
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Ecosse

we are just of the A90 after ellon up on the hill on the hatton straight with veiws to die for 1 mile from hatton and 3 mile from cruden bay beach and golf course does that sound any good to you



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26/8/2010 at 9:46pm
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Close enough for a weekend or even just a Saturday night!     Our main want would just be hookup, anything else would be a bonus.


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26/8/2010 at 9:48pm
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I think that you would be well advised to contact both the Caravan Club and the Camping and Caravanning Club for advise as one of these organisations is likely to be responsible for the exemption licence which you require. I am sure that they will encourage you and provide all the support and help that you need


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  I would only say, as others have, most tenters require some kind of toilet.

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28/8/2010 at 5:25pm
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Hi,

We use CL's and CS's all the time and when planning always look for these first in our chosen area.  We love the quietness and the variety of different places we find.

We are 2 adults and 2 dogs so we look for sites that are genuinely dog friendly and if there is a dog area that is a real bonus and much appreciated.  The only facilities we look for other than this and the basics is probably a decent loo.

We like to meet the owners too as they are usually more approachable than those on bigger sites and keen to share their local knowledge.

Good luck - we shall look out for you!



29/8/2010 at 12:22pm
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we are just home from a weekend away in the van and in the mail is the info pack from the C&CC telling us everything they do almost everything for you so with that i thank you all again for your views and comments and hope to see you all visiting soon

should i give uk campsite members a discount as it was you lot that kept me right  why am i asking of course your going to say yes

thanks again  Johnny Claire &kids



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29/8/2010 at 4:22pm
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I prefer sites that don't resemble a football field with hook ups.

I like the sites with little hedge divides. That way you know where your pitch begins and ends.

Also if it's blowing a hoolie, you get some protection from the wind.

Good luck with your new venture. I'll be watching for your progress.




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