Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 10/8/2015
If you can only see a review of a club site by being a member how is anyone supposed to judge club sites with a view to joining?
Also, if you have to be a member before you can see a review of a club site non-members are unlikely to use the sites and that extra revenue will be lost.
Agreed. The reviews of the site are available to non-members on the club site too, only booking is members only. On C&CC anyway.
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It seems to vary a lot, for both CLs and CSs as to whether you are asked for your membership details or not. That said, if I book by email I always give our details.
Quote: Originally posted by Bob61 on 10/8/2015If you can only see a review of a club site by being a member how is anyone supposed to judge club sites with a view to joining?
Also, if you have to be a member before you can see a review of a club site non-members are unlikely to use the sites and that extra revenue will be lost.
Agreed. The reviews of the site are available to non-members on the club site too, only booking is members only. On C&CC anyway.
On the CC you can only see reviews if you are a member. It is not a perfect system, as you say Bob if you are a non member how can you tell if you will like a site if you cannot see reviews. However, there has to be some perks to paying £40 a year to be a member, and I feel that only being able to see site reviews and only being able to book CL (or CS) sites if you are a member should remain a part of this. Otherwise what is the point of the membership? The clubs might as well do away with it and just charge more for the sites.
Quote: Originally posted by RTS5 on 11/8/2015
On the CC you can only see reviews if you are a member. It is not a perfect system, as you say Bob if you are a non member how can you tell if you will like a site if you cannot see reviews. However, there has to be some perks to paying £40 a year to be a member, and I feel that only being able to see site reviews and only being able to book CL (or CS) sites if you are a member should remain a part of this. Otherwise what is the point of the membership? The clubs might as well do away with it and just charge more for the sites.
Well, anyone who has seen my previous posts about the C&CC will know I am not one of their best fans and the year I spent as a member cost me a whole lot more in camping fees plus membership fee than I had paid previously or since, so yes one certainly needs something extra for one's £40.
A club, I have always thought, was supposed to be run by it's members for it's members in which case, yes I agree, club sites or CS's should really be for members only. Of course we all know the clubs are a profit making business and the CS's are small landowners trying to earn money from their land and so non-members will always be invited to spend their money on club sites and CS's.
I have to say also that I found the C&CC website difficult to navigate and their Big Book needed a magnifying glass and a few spare hours to plough through so I still used UKCS for info and reviews on club sites and CS's.
I personally can't see any advantage at all in being a club member but obviously those who swear by them do.
Post last edited on 11/08/2015 12:01:21
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We've been members of the C&CC for 25 years now; and though I recognise some of the criticisms here, I have to say many views are rather narrow. For a relatively small sum, I get reductions on well managed, if slightly expensive, sites across the country. I'm allowed on to a series of CSs in lovely places. Enthusiastic members also run meetings in fields at very basic rates - £8 pn on a field right by the Dorset coast is a bargain! Whether I choose to use them or not, I'm glad they are there, and I do see it as a surcharge on my hobby.
Beyond all of these I have an organisation which lobbies on my behalf with government and other national bodies, to make sure all of these things still happen. It is no accident that 'exempted camping' is allowed - our predecessors argued for it, and the Clubs still fight for it now.
So on this basis, I'll continue to pay my subs. I'm even happy to help support people who choose not to join. But please be aware that there is more at stake than whether some farmer asks to see your card or not.
I am sure that people who pay about £40 up front for the privilege of camping on club sites feel they are getting a bargain but my favourite site charges me as a solo camper £13 a night with EHU. If I go for 2 night's camping that has cost me £26.
I am not sure what clubs charge members these days I would guess about £10 a night as a solo camper with age concession. If I go camping for 2 nights I will pay £20 for the 2 nights camping, plus the £40 membership fee making a total of £60...more than twice as much. How can that be a bargain?
I would have to go camping on a club site about 15 nights before I broke even and that isn't really possible if I want to visit lots of different places throughout the year because club sites are limited. I would have to go to other campsites and pay their tariffs as well.
Iam a member of both clubs and I always use the 5 van job,in twenty years of been a member I was not ask once for my membership number.I used the ccc club site in cardigan and they did ask my membership number that's the only time ever it happen.So when you phone up these 5 van job and they are full are they full of members or non members hmmmmmmm as one owner pointed out if I got a vacant pitch I don't care a dam if they members or not I just need to fill it.So the two clubs don't practice what they preach
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Quote: So the two clubs don't practice what they preach
I fail to see how both Clubs can police their CS/CLs. This can only be achieved by "spot checks" by their respective inspectors and they cant be everywhere at once.