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17/10/2015 at 4:46pm
 Location: Llanidloes Powys
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Quote: Originally posted by FionaW1971 on 17/10/2015
Good to see I've tapped into the grumpy element of UKCS. Just because a child has a gadget that is motorised does not mean they don't run, jump and play sport as well. A great new gadget has arrived on the market and before Christmas is even here and the wrapping is off them, the Health & Safety Committee are out in force - yawn just yawn!!



Nothing to do with H & S, but to do with the fact that these things are classed as a "motor driven vehicle" and are therefore subject to many laws covering there use in a "public place", and a caravan site is considered a public place because the public have access to it.
You might note that these things have already been banned in many areas and there are also prosecutions pending over their use.
Try reading this as well:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/30/section/59
Their (mis-)use is covered here as well!


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17/10/2015 at 5:03pm
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Quote: Originally posted by motorhomeguy on 17/10/2015
OH FFS.



Sadly we live in a Litigation at the drop of a hat society, now days.

A case of what can I screw out of some else, for monetary gain.

Which is why there are so many Personal Injury Claims companies around now days. Some of whom will make a claim on behalf of their client, on the slim chance, the person they are claiming against, will not fight the claim. And settle out of court, because they know full well, if the person fights, and it goes to court, they are on a looser, with a big bill. Which is why so many claims made by these companies, get dropped without result. But not before the person they targeted, is out of pocket, and has had months of worry and stress.

In the case of a child getting hurt, these Claims companies, will go after the Camp Site Owner, as being the easiest target.

A friend, involved in another hobby, had a PIC Claim Company, try and get him to settle a PIC by their client, who had tripped whilst out in the woods, and broken his ankle. They submitted dual claims against my friend and the Landowner, luckily enough, my Friend, had a Barrister on his side. On a Pro Bono basis, the PIC Company eventually dropped the claim, despite multiple requests to go to court to resolve the claim. It was dropped, because they were well aware they would loose in court. Now imagine the Bill, if my friend had to employ a Lawyer.

Now take a case of a parent of a child on a camp site, whose child is injured, using what is not a suitable piece of equipment in a public area (just like Skate Boards/Roller Boots and Heelies) and decides to submit a claim against the Camp Site owner, for allowing their little darling to use the equipment, in such a inappropriate location. The Insurance Company might just settle to make the claim go away, or might fight it. But either way the Sites Liability Insurance goes up, so who absorbs that increase? The Camp Site Owner, or those staying on the Site, by a increase in pitch fees, not the Little Darlings Parents, who will most probably never return to the Site

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17/10/2015 at 6:24pm
 Location: Blackburn
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Quote: Originally posted by FionaW1971 on 17/10/2015
Good to see I've tapped into the grumpy element of UKCS. Just because a child has a gadget that is motorised does not mean they don't run, jump and play sport as well. A great new gadget has arrived on the market and before Christmas is even here and the wrapping is off them, the Health & Safety Committee are out in force - yawn just yawn!!



I agree...I think some people forget they've been kids. I'd have loved one of these as a kid...and I know my daughter would love one too...


17/10/2015 at 6:42pm
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Fine, buy her one BUT make sure it is being used under parental control, in an area that has been designated as suitable for their use, and is not a "public place".

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/transport/8267312/Segways-banned-from-pavements-and-roads-as-rider-fined-75.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-12215326

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/12/hoverboards-illegal-pavements-roads-scooters

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/10/12/its-back-to-the-past-as-u-k-bans-hoverboards/

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/segway-police-confirm-its-illegal-use-hoverboards-uk-streets-1523615

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/hoverboards-are-illegal-on-british-streets-authorities-say-a6690596.html


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17/10/2015 at 10:20pm
 Location: Gloucestershie
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Make sure you get insurance for your little darling to use her new toy as they will go around 15 mph


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17/10/2015 at 10:54pm
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...and have a St Johns ambulance standing by


17/10/2015 at 11:49pm
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It would be a disgrace if they banned swegs etc. on camp sites, how dare they put people's safety before the kids' enjoyment.

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18/10/2015 at 7:43am
 Location: Essex
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They're pretty small and light, nothing like a Segway. They also stop when the person stops and are under better control than heelys or bikes. I'd be really surprised if anyone's caravan got damaged by someone on a balance board. Agree with poster up thread who said people on mobility scooters can be far more dangerous- some real menaces on those around here.

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18/10/2015 at 9:53am
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Exactly John, I've been around this forum long enough to recognise the usual moaners who look for an opportunity to moan about everything and anything without understanding the facts! Glass half full anyone!!


18/10/2015 at 11:16am
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They will be perfectly safe if there is a man with a red flag walking in front.


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18/10/2015 at 2:45pm
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Any campsite owners out there who have an opinion on this?
Brookie perhaps?


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We all seem to be tripping over semantics:

Can I ride a Segway? Obviously.. you stand on it and drive.

May I ride a Segway?   This will depend upon the decision of the site owner.

Should I ride a Segway?   This comes down to good manners and consideration for other people.


18/10/2015 at 6:15pm
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Quote: Originally posted by kenles on 17/10/2015
Make sure you get insurance for your little darling to use her new toy as they will go around 15 mph



Yeh...her electric scooter goes faster than that.


18/10/2015 at 10:40pm
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Quote: Originally posted by veema on 17/10/2015
Quote: Originally posted by FionaW1971 on 17/10/2015Good to see I've tapped into the grumpy element of UKCS. Just because a child has a gadget that is motorised does not mean they don't run, jump and play sport as well. A great new gadget has arrived on the market and before Christmas is even here and the wrapping is off them, the Health & Safety Committee are out in force - yawn just yawn!!



I agree...I think some people forget they've been kids. I'd have loved one of these as a kid...and I know my daughter would love one too...




They've been around for a while I believe and whilst the health and safety police are out so is the government who say they are not legal to use on the highway, pavement and thus only "in your own backyard " or "private land with landowner permission" my guess is that it simply is not worth the risk to a site to allow them... Party pooping it may be alas that's the law for you never let's 'enjoyable' activities go ahead.... Sadly there are also all too many who would not take responsibility for their child and their actions when/if things go wrong simply the world in which we live I'm afraid - compensation culture and all that....


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